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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15 May 20, 2015

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15

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Guest:  Dr. Eligar Sadeh.  Topic:  Public Private Partnerships for U.S. space launch systems, cis lunar development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Eligar Sadeh back to the show to discuss his recent Astropolitics published article, “Report: Public Private Partnerships and the Development of Space Launch Systems in the United States.”  You can find this report on The Space Show blog for this particular program. During the first segment of our 92 minute program, Dr. Sadeh introduced us to the topic and the Report subjects which you can read on TSS blog.  He addressed the traditional aerospace contracting model, the problem with cost overruns which hurt the traditional model and some of the issues with fixed price contracts, especially with technology and commercial opportunities.  We talked about risk reward and he cited SpaceX and Orbital Sciences as examples of the success of the private public partnership type of arrangement.  In addition, Eligar suggested that such partnerships were supportive of developing programs such as space transportation services.  Other topics in the first segment included SLS, National Security Space, big science programs, planetary missions, and others that still use the traditional model.  Our guest introduced us to the Better Buying Power approach which he referenced several times during the show.  Tim called from Huntsville to talk about risk, profits, and cubesats.  Eligar then went into some detail about the competitive launch environment, specifically for national security payloads and how that is now changing and opening up.  Jake emailed us to inquire if Congress was fully on board with these new public private partnerships.  Jennifer wanted to know how international participation might change the public private partnership relationship.  Next, I asked Eligar to explain the Acquisition Death Spiral which was in Fig. 4 of his Report paper.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth was our first caller & he wanted to address the risk in a fixed price contract.  John and Eligar had an interesting discussion on controlling costs and risks so don’t miss it.  Later, I asked Eligar to explain the New Entrants Certification Guide (NECG) which was issued in 2011.  This document provides the guidelines for the competitive launch environment for national security and other launch competitors.  Our next caller, Doug, wanted to talk about public private partnerships beyond LEO, specifically the Moon.  Eligar talked with Doug about leveraging assets for the private sector, citing the ISS and a few of the commercial users as examples.  Both Doug and Eligar had a very interesting and comprehensive discussion on this topic which considered cislunar transportation, a lunar hab, possible commercial incentives to drive commercial involvement, and more.  Policy and leadership were part of this discussion as was the fact that there currently is no lunar hab, Lunar Cots, or cislunar transportation policy nor is one being considered.  After the discussion with Eligar ended, we used the balance of our time to discuss the likelihood of a fast moving lunar based Chinese space program influencing the US to fast track developing a lunar hab and cislunar transportation.  Prior to our discussion ending, I asked Eligar how listeners could get copies of the journal Astropolitics as Eligar is the editor for it.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can each Dr. Sadeh through me or his email address on his Report on the blog.

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Brent Sherwood, Friday, 5-1-15 May 2, 2015

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Brent Sherwood, Friday, 5-1-15

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Guest:  Brent Sherwood.  Topics:  Human spaceflight, The year of the dwarf planets, Pluto, Ceres, budget math for space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Brent Sherwood for updates to his human spaceflight analysis work previously presented on The Space Show.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 48 minute discussion, Brent started out with a brief discussion on scientific missions and the year 2015 being the Year of the Dwarf Planet.  He talked about the Dawn Mission and Ceres, New Horizons and Pluto, and the oceans on the outer planet moons.  Exoplanets and the habitable zone were also part of this discussion which included an assessment of just how our knowledge has changed regarding the compositing of the solar system.  To redirect the conversation to the purpose of today’s show, human spaceflight (HSF), I asked Brent when we would see HSF beyond LEO (BLEO). I asked about what seemed to be a new space advocacy push for space settlement. Brent then examined why HSF and referred us to his earlier work and the four reasons for HSF which were explore, exploit resources, to experience space, and settlement.  He said settlement was clearly part of the debate, talked about earlier workshops which would avoid the topic and then spoke to the recent Pioneering Space meeting held in Washington, DC where there was a consensus reach for space settlement.  He had good things to say about the meeting and the consensus resolution and talked about the broad space industry representation at the meeting as it was not just NewSpace.  Don’t miss what he had to say about it and space settlement.  Brent was also asked if our National Space Policy Act needed to be amended to reflect space settlement as the official goal of NASA.  Later, he was asked about the stepping stone or incremental approach to HSF development.  He supported this approach, spoke to the challenges for HSF such as life support and more.  As we were closing out the first segment, he offered us valuable insights on this topic so don’t miss what he had to say.

In the second segment, John from Florida called in to ask about grand space visions like an O’Neill orbital colony.  Brent proceeded to discuss grandiose visions in the context of how challenging they were plus their replacement cost.  Here, he used the replacement cost for Manhattan as an example of what he was talking about.  He cited a different type of example, the NASA Ames Space Settlement Contest that had nearly a thousand entries this year from 21 countries with the winner writing a 247 page grand space vision report.  Brent also spoke to the inspiration factor when talking about this contest.  A variety of listener emails were read on air for Brent to respond to, then I asked him if he thought Mars was the Holy Grail for HSF.  He said no so don’t miss why he said that.  He was asked about nuclear propulsion, then we talked about returning to the Moon , cislunar development, and then back to Martian settlement.  He was asked about going to the moons of Mars and he said there were two ways to settle Deimos.  Don’t miss his comments here either.  Near the end of the program, he said the physics of HSF were good but the problem was centered in being grounded in what he called program or budget math.  The budget math for HSF simply does not work, especially for a commercial venture.  He closed on the reality check of being grounded in budget math and the difficulty in going to Mars with humans.

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Henry Vanderbilt, Tuesday, 3-17-15 March 18, 2015

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Henry Vanderbilt, Tuesday, 3-17-15

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Guest: Henry Vanderbilt. Topics: The Space Access Society Conference, April 30-May 2, Phoenix, Arizona. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Henry Vanderbilt back to the program to tell us about the upcoming Space Access Society Conference to be held in Phoenix, Arizona from April 30-May 2, 2015. For information, speakers, and program agenda, see www.space-access.org. During the first segment of our 91 minute program, Henry talked about the logistics of the conference to be held at the Radisson Hotel North in Phoenix. You can register for the conference and the hotel online. Henry then highlighted many of the sessions and speakers for this year’s event. See the Space Access website, www.space-access.org. I asked him what talk or event excited him the most and he said they all excited him. He then focused on a few main speakers including Dave Masten, Jeff Greason and the COTS 2 Return to the Moon track that Dr. Doug Plata will be chairing. Details for this special track within the overall Space Access track are on the Space Access Society website. Henry highlighted the special track with Doug and his track participants, then he focused on the Town Hall Program designed to solicit new and fresh ideas for cheap access to space and space development. Before the segment ended, Charles Pooley called and we talked about New Horizons and fast, high energy deep space issues and advanced propulsion as a result of Marshal’s phone call.

In the second segment, Doug called to talk about his track but also about the superb networking opportunities at Space Access. Doug, picking up on a first segment listener email question, said that the conference was not a space settlement conference but that with affordable space access, space settlement gets much closer to reality. Henry then spoke about Henry Spencer returning to talk and along with Doug, mentioned reusability and lunar landers. Henry will talk about rocket safety, reusability and more. Advanced propulsion technology was discussed when Ft. Worth John called us, then Henry talked about EML2, more conference speakers plus the need for fuel depots. At the end, he said that the Space Access Conference supports their political activism which Henry is really good at doing during the year on very important and key issues. He cited an example from last year. Henry also said there was still room for more speakers but you need to quickly contact him to see if your topic can work for the event. You can email Henry at space.access@space-access.org.

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 2-24-15 February 25, 2015

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 2-24-15

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Guest:  Dr. Eligar Sadeh.  Topics:  Export Control modifications & current affairs in space development/exploration.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Eligar Sadeh to update us on changes in the export control regimes for the U.S.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 44 minute segment, Dr. Sadeh discussed new changes in export control, mainly for satellites.  As Dr. Sadeh explained it, the new regime was moving toward self-policing by the industry with minimum government oversight.  During this segment, Eligar explained this, noted the changes from the previous ITAR regime, and we talked about the self-policing nature of the new regime. I took a rather “doubting thomas” view of the self-policing aspects of the new regime, both from a government and industry perspective.  Frequent listeners to this program will not be surprised by my view which by the way was rebuked by several callers to the show supporting the self-policing and minimum government oversight methodology as explained by our guest.  During this segment, we also inquired about the small satellites, cubesats, and the burden falling on the companies for compliance, even smaller start-up companies.  Eligar said many times that the process was in transition but the final rules have been published and now it is up to the companies to follow them.  When asked about major transition issues, our guest cited liability shifting to the companies and the self compliance issues plus monitoring.  As the segment was ending, Dave called in as one of the rebukes to my skeptical comments to make comparisons to similar changed that happened in the nuclear power industry in 1996.

In the second segment, Ft. Worth John (there are so many John’s calling the show I feel compelled to identify which John called) to support the new regime and to disagree with my skeptical analysis.  John offered some good insights and he made some excellent comments that added to our discussion.  Later in this segment, I asked Eligar for his thoughts on public private partnerships, international space partnerships, human spaceflight, robotic missions and more.  Christine in Salem sent us an email asking why Congress and those making space policy fail to value space as we in the advocate and enthusiast community value it.  Eligar challenged Christine with a comprehensive and very interesting reply.  Eligar was then asked if the new export regime was reached in a bi-partisan way.  Our guest had much to say about space being bi-partisan.  He also spoke about the academic journal Astropolitics as he is the editor of the journal.  Tim from Huntsville was our last caller.  He inquired about collision and liability issues  for small sats colliding with large satellites.

If you have questions/comments please post them on TSS blog per the above URL.  You can reach Dr. Sadeh through me.

 

Dr. Asif Siddiqi, Sunday, 2-22-15 February 23, 2015

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Dr. Asif Siddiqi, Sunday, 2-22-15

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Guest:  Dr. Asif Siddiqi.  Topics:  Early space history through current times plus a historical perspective on commercial space & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Asif Siddiqi to the show.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 53 minute program, Dr. Siddiqi started out with my question about what was going on with space in 1946, the year I was born.  He talked about the early days of space programs from the war, the Soviet Union and the US.  We soon jumped forward to 1969, NASA, Apollo, the Moon, and how many of us from that era thought we were “entitled” to move forward in space to Mars and more.  Our guest had much to say about this space entitlement culture, expectations, and the realities of the time.  We talked about making giant leaps forward rather than a step by step evolving process of moving forward.  Listeners asked him who got the better deal after WW2 with the German rocket scientists, the Soviet Union or the US?  This opened the door to an extensive discussion about Dr. Wernher von Braun.  Asif talked about robotic exploration and the excellent work other space nations and agencies were doing in this field.  John in Ft. Worth called in talked about the impact of the failures of the Soviet Moon Rocket, the N-1.  Our guest and John also talked about the impact of not having competition in the Moon program and how that may have negatively influenced our space program going forward.  Dwayne called and we talked about many topics including the recently concluded Pioneering Space National Summit held in Washington, DC this past week to Mars One, the German rocket scientists after WW2, Arthur Rudolph and Karel Bossart of Atlas rocket fame.

In our second segment, John in Florida called to talk about the conspiracy theory that says the Germans purposely slowed progress on rockets.  This was refuted for other reasons that caused some delays in our program and Russian launching Sputnik before we launched our first satellite.  Next, we turned our attention to the Indian space program which is ambitious but Asif suggested that for now it may be exceeding its capabilities.  Our guest noted they were starting a human spaceflight program and that India was concerned with China and possibly competing with them in space.  The Indian military space program was mentioned as well.  Marshall called and talked about Elon and SpaceX.  Asif had some important things to say about SpaceX, commercial space and government programs.  As we were approaching the end of our program, I asked him what he thought the space history would reflect if written in 2025 for the past decade, the time from now to 2025.  Dr. Siddiqi said it was hard to look forward but he thought some form of Orion would be flying, was not sure about SLS given the proposed low flight rate and suggested ARM won’t happen.  He mentioned many other possibilities for this theoretical ten year time period .   Dwayne called back to comment on Asif’s earlier comments about corporate space programs and policies.  Asif mentioned books and subjects that he liked to review for historical purposes plus he said new historical documents were in such different formats than earlier documents he was not sure how this might influence or impact the work of future historians.  As the show ended, I asked him if thought the Moon would be as hard to return to as going to Mars might be for humans.  He said no because the barriers for going back to the Moon were low compared to Mars and other destinations.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Dr. Asif Siddiqi through me.

Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 2-3-15 February 4, 2015

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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 2-3-15

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Guest:  Dennis Wingo; Topics: Apollo space program, government space programs, national prestige, economic solar system development.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dennis Wingo back to the show to discuss his outstanding article, “The Quagmire of The Apollo Space Program” (see https://denniswingo.wordpress.com/2015/01/18/the-quagmire-of-the-apollo-space-program).  During the first segment of our 1 hour 58 minute discussion, Dennis started out by telling us about his interest in the subject and why he decided to research and write the article in question.  He methodically took us through many of his resources and research methods, highlighting a few resources along the way that were instrumental in his analysis and coming to his conclusions.  One resource he discussed was Ralph Cordiner, the former General Electric CEO.  He also cited many examples in support of his conclusions so I strongly urge you to read his article in association with listening to this program.  He also cited the references indicating that entrepreneurial activity was not what they wanted to happen as an outgrowth of Apollo as it was meant to be a national prestige program.  Given the dysfunction with government, Doug emailed in asking about public/private partnerships.  Dennis offered qualified support for them but listen to what he had to say on this hybrid model.  Dennis then talked about R&D tax credits but for start-ups, the Zero G Zero Tax program was better.  Much of our ongoing discussion in both segments focused on aspects of the Zero G Zero Tax concept.  Doug sent in several emails asking about Zero G Zero Tax before the segment ended.

In the second segment, Charles Lurio called and wanted to know if Pro Space or any organization would be pushing for Zero G Zero Tax this year.  Dennis did not think so but it might happen.  In response to other questions, Dennis explained how Zero G Zero Tax might work because it would only be applicable for new businesses, not existing businesses.  Don’t miss this explanation.  Later, Doug asked if we were running out of resources on Earth that might cause a need for space resource development.  Dennis had much to say on this, especially regarding rare earth elements.  This prompted a call from Kristophr about thorium as a reason the US does not develop its huge rare earth element resources while China does develop theirs plus they stockpile the thorium for future use.  Dennis and Kristophr had a very interesting conversation about this topic and I assure you, you do not want to miss it.  As the segment advanced, Dennis spoke to the commercial opportunities arising from the ISS which he said were very important.  SLS came up and he said it was a done deal but that the key was to focus on what was good and could be built by private enterprise to economically develop the solar system which should be the goal.  To this end, we talked about the need for a transportation system, cislunar development, the asteroids, etc.  In his summary comments, Dennis said that for the bottom line, there were lots of positive things going on at this time.  He spoke to free people and private enterprise leading the way to the economic development of the solar system.  I believe his closing comments spoke to the interests of almost all of us listening to The Space Show.

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Chris Carberry, Sunday, 1-4-15 January 5, 2015

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Chris Carberry, Sunday, 1-4-15

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Guest:  Chris Carberry.  Topics:  Human spaceflight to Mars, Exploremars.org, Mars political advocacy.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  Please note that in the second segment there were two very noisy cell phone calls and we apologize for that. I believe the noise was outdoor wind noise at the callers location.

We welcomed back Chris Carberry, Executive Director of Explore Mars, to outline for us their Mars 2015 plans along with proposed political advocacy with the new Congress and upcoming 2016 presidential election.  In the first segment of our 96 minute discussion, Chris mentioned some of the highlight planned for Explore Mars for 2015 including their H2M Conference at GWU from May 5-7 plus he updated us on the ExoLance and their time capsule projects.  We talked about the political work needed and what Explore Mars was doing regarding this with the incoming congressional members and in preparing for the 2016 presidential race.  I asked Chris to tell how human spaceflight to Mars is presented to congressional members for the most impact and what the biggest objections were which he said focused on the budget.  He also suggested there was lots of political interest in human spaceflight to Mars.  Later we talked about Mars or the Moon, competing for funding and for priority status.  Marshall called with questions about needed energy for a human venture to Mars, focusing on either solar power or nuclear power.  The nuclear power part set up a more extensive discussion.  Chris responded to several emails about lunar water and should it be the Moon or Mars.  He was also asked about depots and their possible support of a humans to Mars mission.

In the second segment, Kirk called in for updates on ExoLance and he asked about a sustainable one way mission to Mars, particularly if public money was used for the mission. Chris thought we were far off from a publicly funded one way Martian mission.  Later, Chris talked about increased interest and talk about going to Mars and he mentioned several companies have plans for a humans to Mars mission.  Orion and SLS came up as well.  A 20 year time line was suggested for the Mars mission.  Toward the end of the discussion, Chris said their 2015 agenda was to continue focusing on building the Mars coalition, to start briefing presidential candidates in advance of the 2016 election, plus working with the new congress.  Toward the end of the show, Chris was asked about going to the moons of Mars instead of Mars.  Tim, our last caller, wanted to know about Red Dragon.

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Open Lines, Sunday, 12-14-14 December 15, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 12-14-14

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Tags:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  NASA Orion/SLS budget, Lunar Orbital Station, backing up Earth’s species and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our Open Lines discussion program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 7 minute program, I started the discussion with a few suggested topics and program announcements.  The only suggested topic that had anything like legs was the 19% budget increase for SLS/Orion in the new FY 15 spending bill just passed by Congress.  BJohn sent in an email asking about a possible Lunar Orbital Station, maybe with Orion, in lieu of the ARM.  Next, Doug called in from S. California to promote the concept of Bio Preserve, backing up Earth’s species.  He talked about the need for this and why and how it might be done.  I suggested he check out the Lifeboat Foundation as they have something of a similar plan though its not identical to what Doug was talking about.  I did ask Doug how such a backup plan would be paid for and like most good ideas, paying for them presents challenges though Doug had decent suggestions.  Brett then called in to talk about his online book, “How To Be A Rocket Scientist.”  Get more information about the book and the ten tips that we talked about by visiting his website, http://www.howtobearocketscientist.com.  He said the book is aimed at the high school audience but he has been hearing from adults and college students who also find the book valuable.  We highlighted a few of his ten tips for discussion.

In the second segment, SLS John called re the NASA budget and said there was plenty of money and the funding increase for SLS/Orion put us on the right path.  John continued to make the case that SLS/Orion is our best chance to avoid being stuck in LEO.  I asked him about commercial space options and he said continuing with SLS/Orion does not prevent the commercial industry from following its own path.  Doug sent in a few emails to John about his comments including one saying that continuing with SLS/Orion blocks the possibility of public/private partnerships.  I challenged Doug’s comment on this because it assumes that monies saved by not having an SLS/Orion program would be used on Doug’s chosen space projects.  In fact Doug did say that we need to better spend tax payer money. While we can all agree with that, the best use of taxpayer money is clearly subjective and would depend on who you were talking with about the use of the money.  Marshall called next to inquire about an update show on space solar power.  I told him I would attempt to get a quality and realistic guest on the program early in the new year.  We then heard from Charles Pooley.  Charles talked about the first year anniversary of his first Microlaunchers book, book two which is in progress and plans for book three.  He also said he was interested in the NASA Challenge dealing with laser communications from space.  Also during the show I went over the final end of the year schedule and the plan to play archived end of the report program with Tom Olson as I did last year leading up to our live program with Tom for end of the year on Dec. 30.  I also pointed out that we would have one more Open Lines program this year on Sunday, Dec. 28.

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Sunday, 12-7-14 December 8, 2014

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Sunday, 12-7-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2370-BWB-2014-12-07.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Cordell.  Topics:  Dr. Cordell uses his trend analysis & Maslow Windows to suggest a boom in space development & exploration.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Bruce Cordell to the show for updates with his trend & Maslow Windows analysis suggesting a strong possibility for a boom ahead with a large space project.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 47 minute program, Dr. Cordell summarized his Maslow Windows theory over the economic history of the US showing how specific economic cycles lead to large, cutting edge projects approximately twice in a century.  He cited several examples but talked about the Panama Canal and our earlier space program culminating with Apollo and our lunar missions.  He said these projects are typically large exploration type projects, macro economic, and coming when there is a boom and the public is ebullient.  He said there are three precursors to the big project.  The three are economic, geopolitical, and space related.  Regarding the space precursor, he talked about the recent Chinese lunar rover mission and Chinese lunar orbiter and return mission.  He also said movies start tracking this too and he mentioned Gravity and Interstellar.  I suggested that many do not want a large government space project, instead opting for private projects and missions within LEO and even to Mars.  Dr. Cordell said it did not have to be a public venture and that it could also be a public/private partnership.  As a result of other questions, he said the next big space project might very well be a return to the Moon.  John from Ft. Worth called to talk about leadership issues, risk, and the lack of the 60’s spirit.  Bruce talked about the impact of the Sputnik moment.  John and Bruce continued their interesting conversation for the balance of the segment.

In the second segment, Bruce answered John’s question from before the break as to what may happen if China is the leader and commands the ebullience, not the U.S.  We also addressed BJohn’s question regarding China using older technology based on the Soviet space program while the US is cutting edge and would that not make a difference.  Don’t miss what Bruce had to say.  In the remaining minutes of the program, Bruce talked about his human spaceflight graduate class he teaches at USC in their Dept. of Astronautical Engineering.  The class will be taught again in the fall of 2015 and is available to qualified students as an online option.  As we were ending the show, I asked Dr. Cordell about timelines which he has connected to our 2016 presidential election.  He also said a major Apollo type project would need leadership from the US president.  I asked about a private sector leader and he had much to say about this possibility.  He mentioned that the economy over the next two years would be critical as we are not yet in a boom period.  He was unable to identify the political leader that would make this happen and said often during our discussion that JFK was not elected as a result of his space policy meaning that an interest in doing something great in space  might develop with a president after he/she is in office.

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14 December 2, 2014

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2366-BWB-2014-12-01.mp3

Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  NASA ARM Mission, RTM, HSF to Mars, solar system economic development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com . Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We did have a few audio problems as Dennis used a cell phone and we lost the connection a few times due to storms across N. California.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 93 minute discussion. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING DRIVE.  WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPACE SHOW AND ITS PROGRAMMING EFFORT.  During our first segment, Dennis talked about his recent blog article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com, To ARM or Not To ARM: Is That Really Our Question.  I urge you to download and read this article as Dennis refers to it many times over during our discussion.  He started out with an analysis of what was thought to be the NASA ARM mission as compared to what it has become today.  As you will hear, he was supportive of the initial mission, not the current evolved mission.  He explained why the shift in his position which was based on making the ARM mission a minimalist type mission.  He explained the differences in detail.  Budget reasons were cited as a primary reason for the mission being downgraded.  Dennis offered us an historical analysis & perspective of the NASA budget.  SLS, Falcon Heavy, & lots of space policy made it to this segment.  Dennis talked about solar electric propulsion for ARM, then he was asked about the likelihood of the next president initiating an RTM program.  Doug emailed about a COTS like program with ULA & Masten for a lunar lander.  Dennis had much to say about a lunar lander dating back to the Gemini era up to new, lower cost ideas coming from the commercial space industry.

In the second segment, Dennis continued talking about the upcoming new Congress and what might emerge as a different type program with a different budget though he thought we were more likely to entertain the status quo.  Several listeners wanted to know if it would boil down to the Moon vs. ARM or the Moon vs. Mars.  Don’t miss his response to these questions.  Our guest suggested we all watch the “Wanderers” video which you can see at http://vimeo.com/108650530.  Dennis mentioned that we did not need a government program as such for space but he did speak in favor of public/private partnerships.  We spoke much about the need for space and lunar infrastructure.  Sally asked him to explain the difference with the economic development of the solar system and space settlement.  He said space settlement was very much a part of a space economic development effort.  In response to another set of listener questions, Dennis talked about the 90-10 rule when has about robots in space as compared to astronauts.  Doug called to talk about investment capital for commercial space plus other issues.  I then asked Dennis if Lunar Cots or industrialization was included in solar system economic development and if so, at what stage?  Kirk emailed in a question challenging the role played by offering prizes.  Don’t miss what Dennis had to say in response to Kirk’s email.  Before we ended the program, Dennis mentioned his latest blog article about Apollo betrayed by the very people who made the Apollo mission happen.  You can read this article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com.

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