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Jim Keravala, Friday, 9-18-15 September 19, 2015

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Jim Keravala, Friday, 9-18-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2555-BWB-2015-09-18.mp3

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Guest: Jim Keravala of Shackleton Energy.   Topics: Space development through solving the world’s terrestrial energy problem. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Jim Keravala, COO of Shackleton Energy Company, to update us on the latest news with Shackleton and their lunar plans. Visit their website for more information, www.shackletonenergy.com. During the first segment of our 1 hour 47 minute discussion, Jim introduced us to the Shackleton Energy plans for space development by solving the terrestrial energy problem facing Earth. The program Jim outlined is expansive and at times complicated so you will want to pay extra careful attention to our discussion. Jim talked about creating the Off World Foundation and the Off World Consortium which he fully explained in this segment. He also said the real path for space development required solving the earth’s terrestrial energy problem. He then explained his multi-billion dollar program which is in three phases starting with propellant depots, then lunar mining and manufacturing, followed by the establishment of space based solar power. Our guest talked about the many challenges but noted that investor caution was prevalent along with risk uncertainty. In this segment, he talked about the market, consortium participants, timelines, business and industrial challenges, and more. He also outlined the assumptions used in designing this program.

 

In the second segment, Jim talked about the Outer Space Treaty, regulatory barriers, rectenna placement, power distribution to the poorest and most needy of countries first, space advocacy, space settlement, the traditional space industry, and technology readiness levels (TRL) for the development of Off World program. Jim answered questions about program costs, suggesting that the first phase mentioned earlier would cost around $18 billion! He outlined the additional program costs and timelines, plus revenues received along the way being reinvested in the program. We talked about comparisons with other industries such as the oil and gas industry and their support for the Off World program. Several times in this segment Jim said this was the best way to drive the development of space and eventually space settlement. At the end of the segment, Jim offered a detailed conclusion & summary for the Consortium to solve the issue of terrestrial energy through the use of space.

 

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Brent Sherwood, Monday, 8-3-15 August 4, 2015

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Brent Sherwood, Monday, 8-3-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2519-BWB-2015-08-03.mp3

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Guest: Brent Sherwood. Topics: Space Solar Power (SSP), climate change, SSP demos, SSP economics. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Brent Sherwood back to the show to discuss the rational, potential, and economics for the use of space solar power (SSP). During the first segment of our 1 hour 27 minute discussion, Brent first introduced us to Dr. David MacKay from Cambridge University who in 2009 was appointed Chief Scientific Advisor to the Department of Energy and Climate Change. Brent talked about Dr. MacKay’s book during our discussion, “Sustainable Energy-Without The Hot Air” which is available for free on the internet. You should follow along in the book with Brent’s discussion, especially in the first segment, as our guest referred to pages and visuals frequently. Check it out at http://withouthotair.com. Most of the first segment was spent using information from Professor MacKay’s book to explain the current energy and climate situation on Earth and to justifying moving away from petroleum, eventually to SSP. Brent talked about CO2, energy disruption, the transition to something other than fossil fuels, and how to develop SSP. Dr. MacKay used modeling for the UK which Brent referenced, especially from page 215 with the UK map. Brent then talked economics, again referring to the work by Dr. MacKay suggesting an SSP system costing $1.4 trillion! Spread out over a number of years, that price was not much different from what is spent on several government departments and policies, including NASA at this time. Brent listed several examples of this so don’t miss this discussion. Brent then suggested the least path of disruption would focus on the key which would have to be electricity. This took us to our next topic which addressed how to generate the amount of electricity needed, including his identifying several newer technologies that could lower some industry costs. He talked about some of the main challenges including transportation, storage, transmission, & operations. Later in the segment, Brent delved into the cost per kWh for electricity. Marshal called to talk about key new technologies including advancements in related and applicable photo voltaics and more.

 

In the much shorter second segment, Brent talked about macro engineering projects and huge platforms in GEO space. He said that such SSP GEO platforms would be around 7,000 sq. km. or three times the size of the paved U.S. national highway surface. Brent then addressed why none of this ever happens and he pointed to this not being a purpose of NASA as an example. To counter this, he advocated for a serious demo project, even suggesting the use of the ISS for the demo. Our guest talked about the challenge in attracting private capital to this because it is so futuristic right now. However, private capital has flowed to the futuristic industry of asteroid mining. We both asked why to one and not to the other? The last email question of the day was from Carol who pointed out that government policy to regulate coal and CO2 over 30 years is off point. Instead, government policy should produce a serious demo project that confirms the technology and the potential market, then let the markets and industry self-regulate and invest for the future.

 

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Dr. Don Flournoy, Friday, 11-22-13 November 23, 2013

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Dr. Don Flournoy, Friday, 11-22-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2127-BWB-2013-11-22.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Don Flournoy.  Topics:  SunSat Design Competition, Space Solar Power.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF.  See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Don Flournoy to the program to discuss the upcoming SunSat Design Competition (www.nss.org/news/releases/NSS_Release_20131028_SunSat.html).  Information about the SunSat Design Competition, the guidelines, prizes and all the details can be found at http://sunsat.gridlab.ohio.edu/node/7.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 25 minute program, Dr. Flournoy introduced us to the International SunSat Design Competition along with the concept of Space Solar Power (SSP).  We talked about the competition, the role of the NSS and also the SpaceJournal which our guest edits, www.spacejournal.ohio.edu (The Online Journal of Space Communication).  Specifically, Don referenced Issue 17, then later Issue 16.  He talked about the need to do proper story telling in a visual format, the need to have your design be technically doable, and include a business plan.  He described the top prizes of which there would be a few at $10K each.  We went over design contest logistics, due dates, the guidelines which are on the above URL and more.  Don then talked about the fundraising involved by the competition, the need to raise sponsorship dollars, crowd funding, and more.  One listener asked if an entry could focus on the launch problem related to SSP.  Yes, that was acceptable.  We talked about the rectennas and he pointed us to an article about this which was posted on Issue 17.  Randy wanted to know if the policy aspect could be an entry since that would be short on the technical component. Again, yes since policy and legal are clearly part of the solution to implementing SSP.  Demo projects came up, especially in reference to nanosatellites and cubesats. Don told about the presentations that take place at the ISDC meeting in May.  We talked about other countries interested in SSP& their role in the competition.

In the second segment, we started with a call from Seth who is member of Don’s Advisory Board.  Seth had additional information about the competition to share with us, plus he talked about the overall educational value of the design competition and work that Don was doing with his students and the online journal.  Don referenced his work with non-technical students, the need to do visualizations for the project, and the work coming out of the Grid Lab.  Don told us about the course he teaches which focuses on creative visualization for science & technology plus how to use social medial.  Our guest was then asked about the potential impact of a demo project and how that might change the project development timeline.  Near the end of the program, Dr. Flournoy was asked about using the Moon for SSP, then he again went over the requirements for entry, including the need to include a business plan. As we were ending, a listener asked him about outreach efforts to policy makers, Congress, staffers,& others, plus their overall interest in SSP.  He was also asked about his student’s reaction to the competition and the overall idea of SSP.

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