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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15 May 20, 2015

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15

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Guest:  Dr. Eligar Sadeh.  Topic:  Public Private Partnerships for U.S. space launch systems, cis lunar development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Eligar Sadeh back to the show to discuss his recent Astropolitics published article, “Report: Public Private Partnerships and the Development of Space Launch Systems in the United States.”  You can find this report on The Space Show blog for this particular program. During the first segment of our 92 minute program, Dr. Sadeh introduced us to the topic and the Report subjects which you can read on TSS blog.  He addressed the traditional aerospace contracting model, the problem with cost overruns which hurt the traditional model and some of the issues with fixed price contracts, especially with technology and commercial opportunities.  We talked about risk reward and he cited SpaceX and Orbital Sciences as examples of the success of the private public partnership type of arrangement.  In addition, Eligar suggested that such partnerships were supportive of developing programs such as space transportation services.  Other topics in the first segment included SLS, National Security Space, big science programs, planetary missions, and others that still use the traditional model.  Our guest introduced us to the Better Buying Power approach which he referenced several times during the show.  Tim called from Huntsville to talk about risk, profits, and cubesats.  Eligar then went into some detail about the competitive launch environment, specifically for national security payloads and how that is now changing and opening up.  Jake emailed us to inquire if Congress was fully on board with these new public private partnerships.  Jennifer wanted to know how international participation might change the public private partnership relationship.  Next, I asked Eligar to explain the Acquisition Death Spiral which was in Fig. 4 of his Report paper.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth was our first caller & he wanted to address the risk in a fixed price contract.  John and Eligar had an interesting discussion on controlling costs and risks so don’t miss it.  Later, I asked Eligar to explain the New Entrants Certification Guide (NECG) which was issued in 2011.  This document provides the guidelines for the competitive launch environment for national security and other launch competitors.  Our next caller, Doug, wanted to talk about public private partnerships beyond LEO, specifically the Moon.  Eligar talked with Doug about leveraging assets for the private sector, citing the ISS and a few of the commercial users as examples.  Both Doug and Eligar had a very interesting and comprehensive discussion on this topic which considered cislunar transportation, a lunar hab, possible commercial incentives to drive commercial involvement, and more.  Policy and leadership were part of this discussion as was the fact that there currently is no lunar hab, Lunar Cots, or cislunar transportation policy nor is one being considered.  After the discussion with Eligar ended, we used the balance of our time to discuss the likelihood of a fast moving lunar based Chinese space program influencing the US to fast track developing a lunar hab and cislunar transportation.  Prior to our discussion ending, I asked Eligar how listeners could get copies of the journal Astropolitics as Eligar is the editor for it.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can each Dr. Sadeh through me or his email address on his Report on the blog.

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Dr. Doug Plata, Monday, 5-11-15 May 12, 2015

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Dr. Doug Plata, Monday, 5-11-15

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Guest:  Dr. Doug Plata.  Topics: Return to the Moon, Space Access Society & relevant, topical space news & information.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dr. Doug Plata back to the show to discuss his Return to the Moon (RTM) segment within the Space Access Society (SAS) meeting last week in Phoenix, plus space policy and other topical issues.  Due to a server glitch and phone line issues in connecting with Doug, this 100 minute show does not have a break as we took our breaks to reconnect to the server and Doug.  As we started out our discussion, Doug gave a shout out to Space Access and to the founder of it, Henry Vanderbilt.  Doug then turned his attention to his Return to the Moon conference within the Space Access Society conference. Doug also provided us with his specific definition for Lunar Cots.   He mentioned the key speakers including Jeff Greason, Jim Muncy, Erik Seedhouse, and Dave Masten.  He summarized each of their presentations, plus he mentioned the SAS lead in speaker to his segment, Dennis Stone of NASA JSC, and the speaker after the RTM segment, Bruce Pittman.  Doug said both speakers were so on topic that in reality they could have easily been part of the RTM segment.  Doug discussed lunar lander options, powering rovers on the lunar surface, especially after taking a call from Jon in New Jersey.  He went into some detail on the presentations within the RTM segment.  BJohn in Sweden asked several quality questions via email so pay attention to them when I read them on air.  Space policy and politics came u as Doug was concerned that a NASA RTM effort might be part of a larger international effort, not a public private partnership effort and it would result in footprints on the Moon all over again without sustainability.  Near the end of the program, he discussed this with Dr. Lurio who called in to raise issues around Doug’s comments & concern.  Doug also reported on the rest of SAS including the Virgin Galactic talk/update.  Again, I apologize for the streaming and phone line issues early in this show.

 

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Bruce Pittman, Monday, 5-4-15 May 4, 2015

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Bruce Pittman, Monday, 5-4-15

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Gust:  Bruce Pittman;  Topics: ISDC 2015 conference and related topics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Bruce Pittman back to the show to discuss the upcoming ISDC 2015 Conference to be held in Toronto, Canada from May 20-24, 2015.  During our one hour program, Bruce talked about ISDC events in general, then the Toronto location for this year’s conference and the conference location, the Hyatt Regency Toronto.  ISDC is a multi-track conference with workshops and an excellent exhibit hall.  For more information, registration, hotel bookings, visit the ISDC 2015 website, http://isdc2015.nss.org/wordpress.  From time to time during our discussion, Bruce mentioned a separate event needing separate registration, The Space Innovation Business Summit (http://isdc2015.nss.org/wordpress/the-space-innovation-business-summit).  Bruce also went over the list of the keynote speakers, all of which are listed on the ISDC 2015 website.  In fact, I strongly suggest you open the website and follow along with us during our discussion about the event.  Bruce also said there would be upwards of 300 students present from around the world as a result of the Space Settlement Contest.  Bruce highlighted both India and Romania for their student participation in the contest and ISDC 2015.  Listeners asked many conference questions including networking, Q&A sessions, and inquiring if there was both a propulsion track topic and a human factors track topic.  Toward the end of our discussion we took a call from Doug regarding EML2, depots, fuel, Mars transportation, etc.  If you are planning to attend, remember you need a passport to enter Canada. Reserve early for the hotel, the conference and your transportation.  ISDC is a terrific event. If you attend, I want to hear from you about it on The Space Show.

 

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Chris Carberry, Tuesday, 4-7-15 April 8, 2015

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Chris Carberry, Tuesday, 4-7-15

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Guest: Chris Carberry. Topics: Explore Mars Humans2Mars Summit, Mars and moon discussion, affordable space policy, NASA budgets, private sector & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Chris Carberry back to the show to discuss Explore Mars events & activities. During the first segment of our 96 minute program, Chris started out by telling us about the upcoming Humans2Mars Summit planned for May 5-7 in Washington, DC. All the conference and registration information is available at http://h2m.exploremars.org. This discussion led me to asking him why we should go to Mars and why now. As part of this discussion, I challenged Chris on using tax payer money for a Mars mission rather than letting the private sector do it. In fact, he did get a listener question about this, suggesting that either Mars One or SpaceX take us to Mars, not the government. Eric sent in a note asking who we thought might be the next NASA administrator or at least who the candidates might be. He also wanted Chris to advise how best to influence officials, policy makers, members of congress, etc. to go to Mars. Chris offered several suggestions to this part of Eric’s two question email. Chris responded to emails about the Affordable Mars Workshop architecture for Mars that we have been hearing about over the past week, plus the recent NSS-SFF meeting where settlement seemed to be the agreed upon goal. Don’t miss what Chris had to say about these events as he attended both. Doug called from S. California to make the case for going back to the Moon on its own, not just as a stepping stone to Mars. Doug suggested that the lunar return folks team with the Mars folks to find the best way to do both missions as it should not be one or the other. He also wanted to make sure going back to the Moon did not delay going to Mars and that going to Mars did not delay or destroy the opportunities for returning to the Moon. Chris and Doug had a vibrant exchange on this subject, especially given this era of tight budgets & constraints.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called to express a concern that going to Mars might end up like Apollo and after a few Martian visits, we quit that too. Chris explained why he did not think that would happen. Later, Dr. Lurio called and said that “these guys are ALL living in fantasy land, one version or another.” His call was to pick up from the email he sent us and to elaborate on his position which was hotly debated and challenged by Chris. One thing Chris and Charles agreed upon was that there would be no repeat of a so-called “Kennedy Moment.” As the show was ending, Chris went over the Humans2Mars Summit again and we talked about the need to start working on Mars plans rather than always just talking and “planning” about them.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Chris through the Explore Mars website or me.

Richard Easton, Eric Frazier, Sunday, 3-1-15 March 2, 2015

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Richard Easton, Eric Frazier, Sunday, 3-1-15

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Guests:  Richard Easton, Eric Frazier.  Topics: GPS updates, competitive global positioning systems, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed the return to the program of both Richard Easton and Eric Frazier to update us on GPS here in the states and internationally.  Make sure you read their book, “GPS Declassified” which is available from Amazon.  If you use the Amazon Space Show/OGLF portal, Amazon will contribute 5% of the purchase price to The Space Show.  Instructions are in all archived summaries and program blog posts.  Visit their website, www.gpsdeclassified.com.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 40 minute program, our guests updated us with new GPS developments, new generation GPS satellites, plus information about delays in bringing online new GPS operating systems including the new OCX system.  Listeners asked our guests questions about how safe and secure our GPS system is from hackers, cyber attacks and even ASAT devices.  Listeners also asked about the Russian GLONASS system as well as the European Galileo system.  Marshall called in to talk about Differential GPS. BJohn inquired about GPS improvements so it would work inside and then the subject of electromagnetic pulse (EMP) came up.  Listeners wanted to know just how vulnerable GPS might be to an EMP attack.  John in Florida inquired about extending GPS throughout the solar system, then as the segment was ending, questions came up about a lunar GPS system.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called in to challenge some of the thinking about the risks posed by an EMP.  John brought up some interesting points so don’t miss this good discussion.  Later, as a result of another BJohn question, we learned that not only are the GPS satellites used for navigation, but they have been used for nuclear detection and were why we could enter into treaties under the assumption of “trust but verify.”  Also in this segment, Mars came up as did a return to the Moon suggestion by our guests.  Near the end, I asked about responsive space ideas and GPS.  Here we learned that the idea was to have additional GPS satellites already in orbit that could be activated rather than having to quickly launch a replacement satellite.  Both our guests provided us with closing comments and “pearls of wisdom.”

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Chris Carberry, Sunday, 1-4-15 January 5, 2015

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Chris Carberry, Sunday, 1-4-15

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Guest:  Chris Carberry.  Topics:  Human spaceflight to Mars, Exploremars.org, Mars political advocacy.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  Please note that in the second segment there were two very noisy cell phone calls and we apologize for that. I believe the noise was outdoor wind noise at the callers location.

We welcomed back Chris Carberry, Executive Director of Explore Mars, to outline for us their Mars 2015 plans along with proposed political advocacy with the new Congress and upcoming 2016 presidential election.  In the first segment of our 96 minute discussion, Chris mentioned some of the highlight planned for Explore Mars for 2015 including their H2M Conference at GWU from May 5-7 plus he updated us on the ExoLance and their time capsule projects.  We talked about the political work needed and what Explore Mars was doing regarding this with the incoming congressional members and in preparing for the 2016 presidential race.  I asked Chris to tell how human spaceflight to Mars is presented to congressional members for the most impact and what the biggest objections were which he said focused on the budget.  He also suggested there was lots of political interest in human spaceflight to Mars.  Later we talked about Mars or the Moon, competing for funding and for priority status.  Marshall called with questions about needed energy for a human venture to Mars, focusing on either solar power or nuclear power.  The nuclear power part set up a more extensive discussion.  Chris responded to several emails about lunar water and should it be the Moon or Mars.  He was also asked about depots and their possible support of a humans to Mars mission.

In the second segment, Kirk called in for updates on ExoLance and he asked about a sustainable one way mission to Mars, particularly if public money was used for the mission. Chris thought we were far off from a publicly funded one way Martian mission.  Later, Chris talked about increased interest and talk about going to Mars and he mentioned several companies have plans for a humans to Mars mission.  Orion and SLS came up as well.  A 20 year time line was suggested for the Mars mission.  Toward the end of the discussion, Chris said their 2015 agenda was to continue focusing on building the Mars coalition, to start briefing presidential candidates in advance of the 2016 election, plus working with the new congress.  Toward the end of the show, Chris was asked about going to the moons of Mars instead of Mars.  Tim, our last caller, wanted to know about Red Dragon.

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Michael Soluri, Friday, 12-12-14 December 13, 2014

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Michael Soluri, Friday, 12-12-14

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Guest:  Michael Soluri.  Topics:  Hubble Repair Mission STS-125 as portrayed in his book, “Infinite Worlds.,” NASA & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed author and photographer Michael Soluri to the show to discuss his behind the scenes documentary work for STS-125, the final Hubble Space Telescope repair mission and his book, “infinite Worlds.”  During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Michael provided us with the background on how he was able to go inside NASA, be with the STS-125 crew, and photographically document all aspects of the final Hubble Space Telescope Repair Mission.  His book “Infinite Worlds” is truly a behind the scenes photographic documentation of this mission, a must have book as you will hear me say throughout the program.  Remember, if you buy it through TSS/OGLF Amazon portal detailed on all archived programs and both websites, Amazon makes a contribution to TSS.OGLF.  Listeners asked Michael many questions about the STS-125 crew regarding risk, safety, the rescue mission that was on the pad ready to go and more.  Michael also told us about asking the veteran crew members about the quality of light in space so better space pictures could be made.  This led to a workshop where Michael helped the crew in looking at things in space differently to get better and different pictures.  Michael talked about the support he got from Goddard, seeing the training in the Hi Bay clean room and even meeting and talking with the crew families.  We talked about the initial mission cancellation, then the reinstatement by Mike Griffin.  Michael also worked in his early documentation work on the New Horizons mission to Pluto, a mission he is still documenting as we await the July 2015 arrival at the planet.  He was also asked about the James Webb Space Telescope  and if he thought it might take up and continue in our culture as much as Hubble has been a part of our culture.

In the second segment, we talked about on orbit servicing and the essay in his book by the father of on orbit servicing, Frank Cepollina.  Michael then told about the Hubble tools and how unique and artistic they were being all rounded with features designed for use when wearing a pressure glove in space, not for use here on Earth.  He also told us about being able to photograph the tools in the Hi Bay which he did as objects of art.  Later on in the segment, we talked about the end of the space shuttle, the modern capsules replacing it from SpaceX and the other companies, and the difference with a transportation system which is what is being developed today and the space system which has been lost due to the shuttle retirement.  Michael was asked by another listener about the space entrepreneurs.  He has not had contact with them but says they are different from earlier space venture participants as they are all about business and making money and the business types don talk about “poetry.”  Our guest was asked about NASA public outreach and inspiration and for the most part he said that we had to do that for space, not NASA.  We need to be persistent, to inspire, to be passionate.  He said not expect those within the organization to do it.  The taxpayers themselves need to do it.  Michael offered us interesting concluding comments and thoughts so don’t miss what he had to say.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Michael Soluri through me or his website, http://www.michaelsoluri.com.

Dr. Bruce Cordell, Sunday, 12-7-14 December 8, 2014

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Sunday, 12-7-14

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Cordell.  Topics:  Dr. Cordell uses his trend analysis & Maslow Windows to suggest a boom in space development & exploration.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Bruce Cordell to the show for updates with his trend & Maslow Windows analysis suggesting a strong possibility for a boom ahead with a large space project.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 47 minute program, Dr. Cordell summarized his Maslow Windows theory over the economic history of the US showing how specific economic cycles lead to large, cutting edge projects approximately twice in a century.  He cited several examples but talked about the Panama Canal and our earlier space program culminating with Apollo and our lunar missions.  He said these projects are typically large exploration type projects, macro economic, and coming when there is a boom and the public is ebullient.  He said there are three precursors to the big project.  The three are economic, geopolitical, and space related.  Regarding the space precursor, he talked about the recent Chinese lunar rover mission and Chinese lunar orbiter and return mission.  He also said movies start tracking this too and he mentioned Gravity and Interstellar.  I suggested that many do not want a large government space project, instead opting for private projects and missions within LEO and even to Mars.  Dr. Cordell said it did not have to be a public venture and that it could also be a public/private partnership.  As a result of other questions, he said the next big space project might very well be a return to the Moon.  John from Ft. Worth called to talk about leadership issues, risk, and the lack of the 60’s spirit.  Bruce talked about the impact of the Sputnik moment.  John and Bruce continued their interesting conversation for the balance of the segment.

In the second segment, Bruce answered John’s question from before the break as to what may happen if China is the leader and commands the ebullience, not the U.S.  We also addressed BJohn’s question regarding China using older technology based on the Soviet space program while the US is cutting edge and would that not make a difference.  Don’t miss what Bruce had to say.  In the remaining minutes of the program, Bruce talked about his human spaceflight graduate class he teaches at USC in their Dept. of Astronautical Engineering.  The class will be taught again in the fall of 2015 and is available to qualified students as an online option.  As we were ending the show, I asked Dr. Cordell about timelines which he has connected to our 2016 presidential election.  He also said a major Apollo type project would need leadership from the US president.  I asked about a private sector leader and he had much to say about this possibility.  He mentioned that the economy over the next two years would be critical as we are not yet in a boom period.  He was unable to identify the political leader that would make this happen and said often during our discussion that JFK was not elected as a result of his space policy meaning that an interest in doing something great in space  might develop with a president after he/she is in office.

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14 December 2, 2014

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2366-BWB-2014-12-01.mp3

Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  NASA ARM Mission, RTM, HSF to Mars, solar system economic development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com . Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We did have a few audio problems as Dennis used a cell phone and we lost the connection a few times due to storms across N. California.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 93 minute discussion. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING DRIVE.  WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPACE SHOW AND ITS PROGRAMMING EFFORT.  During our first segment, Dennis talked about his recent blog article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com, To ARM or Not To ARM: Is That Really Our Question.  I urge you to download and read this article as Dennis refers to it many times over during our discussion.  He started out with an analysis of what was thought to be the NASA ARM mission as compared to what it has become today.  As you will hear, he was supportive of the initial mission, not the current evolved mission.  He explained why the shift in his position which was based on making the ARM mission a minimalist type mission.  He explained the differences in detail.  Budget reasons were cited as a primary reason for the mission being downgraded.  Dennis offered us an historical analysis & perspective of the NASA budget.  SLS, Falcon Heavy, & lots of space policy made it to this segment.  Dennis talked about solar electric propulsion for ARM, then he was asked about the likelihood of the next president initiating an RTM program.  Doug emailed about a COTS like program with ULA & Masten for a lunar lander.  Dennis had much to say about a lunar lander dating back to the Gemini era up to new, lower cost ideas coming from the commercial space industry.

In the second segment, Dennis continued talking about the upcoming new Congress and what might emerge as a different type program with a different budget though he thought we were more likely to entertain the status quo.  Several listeners wanted to know if it would boil down to the Moon vs. ARM or the Moon vs. Mars.  Don’t miss his response to these questions.  Our guest suggested we all watch the “Wanderers” video which you can see at http://vimeo.com/108650530.  Dennis mentioned that we did not need a government program as such for space but he did speak in favor of public/private partnerships.  We spoke much about the need for space and lunar infrastructure.  Sally asked him to explain the difference with the economic development of the solar system and space settlement.  He said space settlement was very much a part of a space economic development effort.  In response to another set of listener questions, Dennis talked about the 90-10 rule when has about robots in space as compared to astronauts.  Doug called to talk about investment capital for commercial space plus other issues.  I then asked Dennis if Lunar Cots or industrialization was included in solar system economic development and if so, at what stage?  Kirk emailed in a question challenging the role played by offering prizes.  Don’t miss what Dennis had to say in response to Kirk’s email.  Before we ended the program, Dennis mentioned his latest blog article about Apollo betrayed by the very people who made the Apollo mission happen.  You can read this article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com.

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Webinar: SLS Debate with John Hunt, Rick Boozer, Sunday, 11-16-14 November 17, 2014

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Webinar: SLS Debate with John Hunt, Rick Boozer, Sunday, 11-16-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2357-BWB-2014-11-16.mp3

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Guests:  Webinar with Rick Boozer, John Hunt.  Topics:  Our guests debated the merits of the SLS rocket.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.   Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We welcomed Rick Boozer and John Hunt to the program for our special WEBINAR SLS Debate.  You can hear the audio only for this debate as you would any Space Show program.  The video can be found on our Vimeo Space Show Channel, http://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow.  Regarding the video, my microphone lock was not working so you will see the mic swing to in front of my face from time to time.  Also, I look down a bit as I take notes to be able to summarize  the discussion.  These issues will be corrected for the next webinar. Rick’s book on the subject, “The Plundering of NASA: An Expose” is available on Amazon.  If you purchase the book and I hope you do, please use the OGLF/Space Show Amazon portal so Amazon will make a contribution to TSS.  Instructions are on the website, the blog, and all program archive summaries.

During the first segment of our two hour webinar, both John and Rick made five minute opening statements followed by a 2.5 minute rebuttal of the position statement by the other guest.  Rick Boozer does not support SLS and John Hunt does support it.  John went first, putting forth a good summary of why he supports SLS, the benefits it provides, and the importance of the project.  Rick’s opening statement outlined why he opposes the SLS rocket, calling it an “existential threat.”  He also said SLS was a “rocket to nowhere.”  The opening statements provided the basic positions for both guests as they debated all aspects of SLS so do carefully listen to their respective position comments.  We took both calls and emails from listeners.  Evon emailed in wanting to know what the money saved from SLS would best be spent on.  John pointed out that there was no assurance that any savings would even be spent on space let alone his priorities.  While Rick agreed, he did list several projects he felt far more deserving of funding, including using the funds to speed up the commercial crew program since it has never been funded to the level requested by the President.  Rick took the opportunity to bring up cost plus contracting and why it was not suitable for a more mature manufacturing project, instead being best suited for R&D projects.  He said that was a driver in the high cost of SLS.  In contrast, John cited his aviation experience with the A12 and P7 aircraft using fixed price contracts, cancellations, and more.  Dr. Doug sent in a note asking about the fundamental need for a heavy lift rocket.  Our guests had a different take on Doug’s question so listen to how they answered it.  Rick pointed out the advantages of the SpaceX Falcon Heavy as compared to the initial SLS version.  In fact, comparisons to Falcon Heavy plus future SpaceX plans and public remarks made by Elon Musk were cited frequently by Rick throughout the program.  John, while applauding the SpaceX accomplishments so far, strongly suggested that we see what the performance actually is on the SpaceX  rockets yet to be tested & flown.  John said we should not be in a hurry to cancel SLS in favor of unproven and as of yet nonexistent technology.  Tim from Huntsville called during this segment to inquire about SLS in light of Falcon 9 success, reusability success and more.  John suggested that reusability would be an important step forward but wanted to wait to see what it looked like when & if it becomes operationally successful.

In the second half of our webinar, Dr. Doug called & inquired about both the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy as compared to SLS.  Rick referenced an Elon Musk MIT video talk, www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/elon-musk-mit-interview-video-24-oct-2014.  Rick referenced this talk several times during this segment.  Rick also said SLS would not be going anywhere as there was no budget for its completion.  He cited the references to back up his claims.  Doug also inquired about public/private partnerships, ULA working with Blue Origin, and ULA with Masten.  Andrew sent in an email asking each guest to outline a viable sequence of launch vehicle development and payloads using what hardware.  John took the opportunity to reply to Rick’s budget comments and said there was no way to know what a future congress and administration would do and he listed the rational for keeping SLS going given our state of uncertainty with many space and international issues.  Jerry called from Florida to inquire about the SpaceX super heavy rocket with methane engines as well as the possibility of using a Dragon as a lander.  Adrian emailed a question to our guests wondering if the Chinese lunar program would create a space race or urgency here in the U.S.  Rick then talked about the likelihood of SpaceX getting to deep space before NASA & this would be an embarrassment for NASA and the SLS/Orion gang.  John did agree that if that happened, it would be an embarrassment for NASA.  Kirk emailed in asking Rick about his opening statement when he said SLS would cause the US to rely on Russian in ways other than eating into the commercial budget. He wanted Rick to tell us the other ways such Russian reliance might unfold.  Listen to how Rick responded to Kirk’s question.  Each of our guests provided us with an excellent five minute closing statement.  Rick said the situation was very serious and had the potential to adversely impact the prominence and leadership of the U.S.  Don’t miss his concluding comments.  John reminded us that SLS was the program of record approved on a bipartisan basis, that it was important to have heavy lift capability, and that it preserved skills, work force talent, and needed capabilities for the nation for times when space would be better appreciated & valued.  He said the problems with SLS were all solvable & would be solved as the project moved forward.  Rick quickly got in a question on what capabilities were needed and being preserved!

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