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Mark Whittington, Sunday, 9-6-15 September 7, 2015

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Mark Whittington, Sunday, 9-6-15

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Guest: Mark Whittington; Topics: We discussed Mark’s new book, “Why Is It So Hard to Go Back to the Moon.? Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Mark Whittington back to the show for this 1 hour 56 minute discussion of his new book, “Why Is It So Hard to Go Back to the Moon?,” During the first segment of our program, Mark introduced us to the book and immediately said that the missing element in being able to go back to the Moon is the lack political support and leadership to drive the return to the Moon program. Mark also spoke to the need for the president to lead the effort, then he did a brief historical overview over both Bush presidencies plus the Clinton administration. He talked about the Space Exploration Initiative, Constellation, and the ISS. As you will hear, listeners had much to say about Mark’s examples as they added to this short historical summary of this part of the space program. Doug called to mention the high costs of the Altair lander as a cause for shutting down Constellation. Mark disagreed with Doug to some extent because with a president that wanted to keep the program, the problems would have been fixed. Michael Listener emailed us about the drawbacks of international partners and policies per the return to the Moon effort. Michael said The ISS was completed over many administrations because it was the result of an international treaty so it was not a good example of a program surviving multiple administrations. Before the break, Kelly sent in an email to make the point that Constellation was not really cancelled. Instead, surviving components were given a new name but the projects continue.

 

In the second segment, Mark started out by talking about his book which can be ordered from most bookstores but it is also available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble websites. The book is also available as Kindle on amazon. He said it was a short book, an easy read. The paperback sells for $6 while the Kindle version sells for $2.00. Remember, if you use The Space Show/OGLF portal, Amazon will make a contribution to the show. Instructions for doing this are on all archived summary statements on the website and the blog, plus you can see them on both The Space Show website and the One Giant Leap Foundation site. Mark talked about getting the book in the hands of congressional members and staffers, then talked about individual space lobby efforts for returning to the Moon and even sending a copy of the book to one’s representatives or their staffers. Policy making and the 2016 elections were a big part of this segment of the show. Later he was asked for his thoughts on settlement which he supported. He was also asked about HE3, fusion, and a permanent resource base on the Moon. The recent ELA study on more efficient ways to go back to the Moon came up along with a few other topics. In talking about his book’s recommendations, he talked about outreach to the public, the media, international partners, the commercial sector, and students.

 

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Dr. Donald Rapp, Monday, 4-20-15 April 21, 2015

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Dr. Donald Rapp, Monday, 4-20-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2457-BWB-2015-04-20.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Donald Rapp.  We discussed using indigenous resources to facilitate HSF to Mars, then the great climate change debate based on facts not agendas.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back to the show Dr. Donald Rapp to discuss two important topics.  In the first segment we addressed using indigenous resources to facilitate human spaceflight to Mars and the MOXIE experiment on Mars 2020.  In the second segment, Dr. Rapp examined the climate change debate without out preconceived belief systems by an honest examination of the data.  To start our first segment, Dr. Rapp talked about the massive amounts of propellant needed for a human mission to Mars which then led us to discussing using resources on Mars to make propellant for the return to Earth.  Our guest was asked about going to Mars via the Moon and using lunar ice to make propellant for the Mars mission.  This proved to be quite a mini-discussion as Dr. Rapp was skeptical about the use of lunar resources including water ice as an assist for a manned Mars mission.  Many listeners asked him challenging questions about his position and conclusions do don’t miss this important discussion.  Later in the segment a listener asked Dr. Rapp about the potential benefits of using nuclear power and nuclear propulsion.  This too was a fascinating mini-discussion so don’t miss it, especially the call on the subject from listener Kris.  Dr. Rapp was asked about the MOXIE experiment which we talked about at length, then he was asked about the need for heavy lift rockets to Mars.  Our guest supported heavy lift which he defined as a 100-120 tons to LEO.

 

In the second segment, climate change was our main topic.  Here he talked about extreme agendas by both the climate alarmists and the climate skeptics and said a new group was emerging which he called the “lukewarmists” who actually and honestly evaluated the data without a preconceived belief system.  Dr. Rapp went through the known facts, the history of the subject, the warming periods, the CO2 levels and where on Earth warming mostly took place though there has been no warming from 1998-2015.  We talked about sunspots and climate change and the impact of El Nino and La Nina.  He also talked about global energy usage and the projected increases for the 21st century and beyond.  The increasing use of power and pollution by China and India were important factors in this discussion.  Listeners had many questions for him including many wanting a way to deal with excessive, costly and unscientific regulations that are forced on the people by politicians who don’t know the facts and have an agenda to their behavior.  No solutions were offered.  A teacher wrote in about the challenges she has teaching factual climate change to her students because parents on both sides of the issue come in and complain that the “truth” was not being taught in the class.  Dr. Rapp offered us concluding remarks around the basic idea that everything is complicated including sending humans to Mars and dealing with climate change issues.

 

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David Woods, Sunday, 3-22-15 March 23, 2015

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David Woods, Sunday, 3-22-15

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Guest: David Woods. Topics:   Gemini manned missions, Apollo, space capsule technology and more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed David Woods to the program to discuss his new book “NASA Gemini 1965-1966: Owners Workshop Manual co-authored with David Harland. During the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute show, Mr. Woods told us why he focused on Gemini plus he talked about launching ten manned mission within a 20 month period. He spoke to the early space program with NASA and the US as like being on a war footing (Mr. Woods is Scottish), a fact he mentioned frequently during our discussion because doing things on a rapid time table when on a war footing (the Cold War) and in normal peace times can be very different. We talked Gemini capsule technology and from time to time we compared it to both the Mercury and the Apollo capsule technology. He said that Gemini was orders of magnitude more advanced that Mercury and that Apollo was more of a refinement in technology. He reported that Gemini used fuel cells plus other advanced technology and that it was an absolutely essential program for Apollo and our lunar flights. Mr. Woods talked about the book and that fact that it was an Owners Workshop Manual with the Haynes Manual series which is mostly about autos in the UK. In talking about Apollo, he said it was an anomaly. The use of 21st century technology in the 1960’s. He cited several examples of th is including the fact that global TV was not even close to the level of technology as was Apollo and this was evident when people around the world saw the landings from the Moon. David also pointed out that Gemini missions were the first to address the space sickness issue. Don’t miss what he had to say about this. Other topics in this segment included the Gemini budget, navigation issues, & public awareness of Gemini.

In the second segment, David was asked about the Gemini Blue Mission and the Gemini Manned Orbital Lab. We then switched topics to David’s Apollo book, “How Apollo Flew To The Moon.” Not only did we discuss this book and how we flew to the Moon, I asked our guest about returning to the Moon. He indicated we have no will to do so even though we know how to do it and have the technology to do it. We also talked about his book, “The Lunar Rover Manual.” John from Ft. Worth called and said that during the Gemini period, we were actually behind the Soviet Union and playing catch-up with them in the space race. Both David and John said that not only did we play catch-up, we passed the Soviet Union during the 20 month Gemini period of manned launches. Toward the end, David was asked to compare the recent Orion test flight with Gemini, then he was asked for lessons learned from Gemini moving forward.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach David Woods through his website, www.wdwoods.com or through me.

Dr. Cameron Smith, Monday, 2-2-15 February 3, 2015

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Dr. Cameron Smith, Monday, 2-2-15

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Guest:  Dr. Cameron Smith.  Topics:  Interstellar human spaceflight, space settlement, our distant human future.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Cameron Smith to the program to discuss interstellar spaceflight and our distant human future.  You can see his lecture on this topic, “Interstellar Voyaging: An Evolutionary Transition” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CprziVZHqBk.  During the first segment of our 91 minute program, we talked about the biological and cultural challenges involving interstellar flight.  When asked why he was interested in this field and doing research in it, he talked about how important it was to influence for the good our distant human future.  He talked about human success over time in adaptation as humanity is adaptable.  He then spoke to the need for species insurance.  John in Florida called in with Mars archaeological questions, wondering what may be left of a civilization after a billion years or so. We also talked about models from Earth archaeology around the world in places like the Middle East.  Our guest said there were plenty of unknowns in trying to extrapolate Earth archeology to Mars.  Another listener asked about robots versus humans, a topic our guest had much to say about.  The bottom line is that humans are still a much better tool but robots are also needed.  We talked about ways to influence policy makers and the importance of influencing the public.  You might be surprised by some of our guest’s comments.  We talked about Mars and he said it was a good first step.  He was then asked about the Moon as a first step.  He cited a comment by Dr. Zubrin suggesting that regarding the Moon, “the cops are too close!” Listen to how our guest explained this comment.  I asked several questions about student interest in interstellar spaceflight.  Other topics in this segment included extra terrestrial life and questions about Cydonia which our guest said he had studied in detail and concluded it was not from a past civilization.

In the second segment, Cydonia questions continued to come in and Dr. Smith elaborated on his studies and conclusions.  The Swedish website Glanta came up as our guest had an article published on the site. Their English language site is http://glanta.org/?page_id=2.  The ISS came up with listener questions and our guest was critical of it since it still does not have closed loop environmental and life support.  The field of exobiology was discussed as was the need for low cost space access.  Paula in Denver asked about the need to be inspiring and to inspire students and others regarding space, interstellar flight, and our distant human future.   Cameron said we needed to start with kids and that it was important to do so.  He also spoke to the need to make sure our students have and know how to use the skills of critical thought.  The ARM came up and Cameron said it make no natural sense.  He also said we should be getting serious about going to Mars.  During the show he was asked why this was important, going to Mars, human spaceflight, interstellar flight, all of it.  He cited the need to have a humanity insurance policy as from studying the past as he has done in his field, he is all too familiar with species, nations, cultures, and such becoming extinct.  It does happen and space settlement and interstellar human spaceflight are the insurance programs for our survival.  His concluding remarks repeated saying that space colonization was a responsibility, not a luxury.

Please post your comments on TSS blog above.  You can reach Dr. Smith through me or his university website, http://pdx.academia.edu/CameronMSmith.

Open Lines, Sunday, 1-25-15 January 26, 2015

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Open Lines, Sunday, 1-25-15

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  We discussed a wide range of space topics from Mars colonization to radiation issues, UFO files, the SpaceX-AF litigation, the Nixon space policy and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our Open Lines program.  During the first segment of our two hour seven minute program, we took several calls starting with John in Florida who wanted to talk about early Mars colonization, one way Mars trips and similar topics.  He wondered about buried Martian ruins deep under the ground and I drew an analogy to archaeological digs here on Earth in finding towns and early civilizations buried on top of one another far below the surface of the Earth.  John from Ft. Worth called in to talk about the Al Worden interview in which Al did not think there was any reason for returning to the Moon. You can read the Worden interview at http://www.dw.de/apollo-15-command-module-pilot-alfred-m-worden-nasa-took-a-step-backwards/a-18211468.  I also asked John about the release of thousands of UFO documents, http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/01/19/air-force-ufo-files/21985651.  John and I then returned to discuss more about the Worden interview, his comments on the shuttle, the ISS, Saturn V and more.

In the second segment, Michael Listner called to update us on the settlement of the SpaceX Air Force litigation.  Michael summarized the mediation and the settlement details for us.  Dr. Doug from S. California called to talk about a variety of topics including radiation.  He referred to an Al Globus article regarding his view on shielding requirements. You can read Al’s article here:  http://space.alglobus.net/papers/RadiationPaper2014.pdf.  Doug also talked about a permanent base on the Moon and his Mars Return Option.  Dwayne was the next caller and he spoke of John Logsdon’s upcoming book on Apollo and the Nixon space policy.  He talked about all the budget cuts and slashes back then and how they negatively impacted the program. Dwayne also talked about the nuclear thermal rocket and the fact that it can’t go active until it out of Earth orbit.  Adrian sent in an email about radiation debris putting satellites at risk.  Here is the older NY Times article he sent me:  http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/26/world/radioactive-debris-in-space-threatens-satellites-in-use.html.  Tim called to debunk the Mars crew living in a tuna can analogy and instead wanted to compare it to submarines.  He got some pushback on his submarine analogy.  Earlier, Jon from NJ had sent in a note about the SpaceX satellite plans & what this may mean for SpaceX.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach any of the participants through me.

Open Lines, Sunday, 1-12-14 January 13, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 1-12-14

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics: A wide ranging discussion focusing on student space inspiration, heavy lift, SLS, commercial space & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Welcome to this 2 hour 11 minute wide ranging discussion with a surprising debate between two callers in the latter part of the second half of the show.  During the first segment, we started out with a call from Paul to talk about his AIAA Spaceflight Challenge Program for inspiring students.  The purpose of this program is to inspire students to be involved in space development and exploration.  Paul will keep us posted on the project as it develops over the coming months.  Charles Pooley called in next to tell us that his Microlaunchers book was out and that he and his co-author would be on The Space Show to discuss it in detail Monday, Jan. 13, 2014.  The book, “Microlaunchers: Technology for a New Space Age,” is available through Amazon.  If you buy it and I suggest you do, use the OGLF Amazon portal so Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show.  Directions for doing this are on each blog archive, website archive, TSS website home page and on www.onegiantleapfoundation.org.  Let me know if you have any questions.  I believe you will be impressed with his long awaited book and hats off to Charles for finally getting it done and for doing a terrific job with it.

In our second segment, we took a call from an upstate NY college student inquiring about the returning to the Moon, lunar commerce and such.  Following Eric’s call, Marshall called in from Texas to talk about how inspiring TSS has been for him.  We also talking space mining issues with him, the use of robots and more.  Our next caller was SLS John.  John is a strong advocate for SLS and he again articulated the case for the completion of SLS.  I challenged him again with the usual arguments against SLS which did not phase him.  Dr. Jurist wanted to comment on what SLS John was saying so using another phone line, Dr. Jurist (Montana John) and SLS John had a lengthy and detailed exchange, both supporting heavy lift and SLS , although with reservations, especially from Montana John as you will hear in their discussion.  Its an interesting discussion but I doubt it will change the minds of listeners regardless of how they see and think about SLS.  That said, I strongly suggest you listen to their entire discussion many key points were addressed by both callers.  As the show was ending, I went over some of the key upcoming guests scheduled for The Space Show.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  If you want to reach any of the callers, do so through drspace@thespaceshow.com.