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Rick Tumlinson, Sunday, 2-9-14 February 10, 2014

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Rick Tumlinson, Sunday, 2-9-14


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Guest:  Rick Tumlinson.  Topics:  Commercial space ventures, space advocacy, DSI, Orbital Outfitters & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Rick Tumlinson back to the show for this 1 hour 53 minute program to discuss Rick’s commercial space ventures, space advocacy, NASA, space development and exploration challenges & methods for moving the “revolution” forward.  In the first segment, Rick opened up with updates for Deep Space Industries (DSI), asteroid mining, NEO defense, and more.  We also talked about Rules of the Road and possible industry regulation that the FAA is now talking about.  Much time was spent on possible NEO impacts.  We also started discussing the “opposition” to commercial space and new space directions over traditional aerospace programs and directions.  Following our discussion regarding DSI, we turned to another of Rick’s entrepreneurial companies, Orbital Outfitters.  Rick talked about their new & advanced spacesuit design version IS3, their opening R&D offices in Midland, Texas, plus he mentioned upcoming news with which the company will soon take public.  I asked Rick about modern day advocacy hurdles as compared to when the Space Frontier Foundation was first started.  This provoked lots of interesting comments and discussion points that crossed over into the second segment of our program.  However, he did say it was harder now so don’t miss the discussion and talking points.

In the second segment, we talked about the overall Texas commercial space development strategy, possible new spaceports for Texas, and their understanding of how the space industry is changing and becoming profitable.  We also talked about his most recent Huffington Post Op-Ed which will appear within a few days which was a reply to a Slate.com article by NYU Journalism Professor Charles Seife titled “What Is NASA For.”  You can see the article at
www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/mysteries_of_the_universe/2014/02/nasa_s_mission_its_search_for_meaning_has_limited_its_science_and_damaged.html.  While Rick pointed out the problems with the article, he also talked about the author’s perspective being valid.  Don’t miss this discussion.  We also talked about public/private partnerships with Doug & the need to be commercially profitable. Lots was said about HSF to Mars and Deimos, plus returning to the Moon.  Rick also talked science & robotic missions along with HSF missions.  As the program was ending, Rick talked Big Picture with us and being caught up in space advocacy battles & the path forward.  He talked about culture, space exploration & development benefits for all of humanity, benefit sharing, and more.  He repeated many times that we are at the cusp, a turning point, a paradigm change moment.

Please post your comments on TSS blog.  Rick provided his email address for contact during the show or you can reach him through me.

Rick Tumlinson, Friday, 1-20-12 January 21, 2012

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Rick Tumlinson, Friday, 1-20-12


Guest: Rick Tumlinson.  Topics:  Why Space, space vision, NewSpace, SLS, opening the space frontier.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Rick Tumlinson back to the program for this nearly two hour discussion of space vision, leadership, programming, SLS, advocacy and more.  In hour first 70 minute segment, Rick opened by talking about his ongoing op-ed series in the Huffington Post titled “Why Space?”  So far he has two issues uploaded to the Huffington Post & I urge you to read them.  You can see all of Rick’s articles on the Huffington Post at www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-tumlinson. During our discussion, Rick stressed the need for space settlement and talked about this during the entire program.  Additionally, Rick focused on the big picture space vision throughout our entire discussion.  In the first segment, SLS came up but it was also talked about later in the show.  Rick explained why he thought it was the wrong project for this point in time and had much to say about private industry launch & space transportation systems as compared to government programs.  When asked if he thought SLS could be appropriate as a placeholder, he said no but listen to what he had to say about this idea.  He talked about not picking winners and advocating a common sense space plan.  I asked him for his plan and how to implement it.  He then outlined a plan in several steps during the balance of the segment.  Don’t miss it.  Listeners called & asked questions about the Chinese space program and cooperation and the same with the Russians. 

In the second segment, Rick started us off with a discussion about the Frontier approach for space development.  He also talked about going to the Moon and why, but also about asteroids & Mars.  He said we need to develop the skills and the insitu experience for living & working in space.  Several times he mentioned that on the Moon and Mars we would be living underground due to the radiation.  Rick then talked about space habitats including O’Neil like space stations/habitats.  Several listeners asked about the role of HSF in developing our understanding of the universe, specifically for 2012 and beyond.  John from Atlanta called in to talk about the lack of civility coming from the NewSpace community toward old space.  This produced a spirited give & take with Rick which in a way focused on “guarantees” for the commercial company success as compared to government rocket programs.  John suggested it was a bit risky putting all the “eggs” in unproven commercial company baskets when we know the government launch vehicle will work as long as the program is not cancelled.  Don’t miss what John and Rick had to say.. Toward the end, Rick talked about the Texas Space Alliance & his new organization, EarthLight Institute. He provided us with substantial detail about the EarthLight Institute plans, their website which is under construction,  plus the book on asteroids that he is working on and will be out around the end of the year.  He was asked about his continuing role with the Space Frontier Foundation & the activities of SFF.

Please post comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above. Rick’s email address is rick@earthlightinstitute.org