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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 5-27-15 May 28, 2015

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 5-27-15

Special Guest:  Marcia Smith

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Guests: John Batchelor, Marcia Smith, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: NASA 2016 Budget, SLS, Commercial Crew & more. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed back Marcia Smith of spacepolicyonline.com to discuss the NASA 2016 budget per the recent decisions made by the House Appropriations Committee. We discussed SLS, Planetary Science, Orion, Commercial Crew, cuts to Earth Sciences plus the criticism against these allocations by both The White House and NASA Administrator Charles Bolden. We also talked about Mr. Bolden’s comments saying that if commercial crew were not fully funded, it would seriously delay the program. While the committee allocated a larger amount to the commercial crew program than before, it did fall short of what both The White House and NASA said the program needed. We also talked spending caps and sequestration. Marcia explained how that would work as overall the total spending for the agencies involved have to stay within the caps but the allocations within the agencies can differ which is why there are winners and losers. John questioned Marcia on SLS as he was not that supportive of it. Note what Marcia had to say about SLS but whatever one thinks about it, the program clearly has the support of many in Congress.

 

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15 May 20, 2015

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15

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Guest:  Dr. Eligar Sadeh.  Topic:  Public Private Partnerships for U.S. space launch systems, cis lunar development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Eligar Sadeh back to the show to discuss his recent Astropolitics published article, “Report: Public Private Partnerships and the Development of Space Launch Systems in the United States.”  You can find this report on The Space Show blog for this particular program. During the first segment of our 92 minute program, Dr. Sadeh introduced us to the topic and the Report subjects which you can read on TSS blog.  He addressed the traditional aerospace contracting model, the problem with cost overruns which hurt the traditional model and some of the issues with fixed price contracts, especially with technology and commercial opportunities.  We talked about risk reward and he cited SpaceX and Orbital Sciences as examples of the success of the private public partnership type of arrangement.  In addition, Eligar suggested that such partnerships were supportive of developing programs such as space transportation services.  Other topics in the first segment included SLS, National Security Space, big science programs, planetary missions, and others that still use the traditional model.  Our guest introduced us to the Better Buying Power approach which he referenced several times during the show.  Tim called from Huntsville to talk about risk, profits, and cubesats.  Eligar then went into some detail about the competitive launch environment, specifically for national security payloads and how that is now changing and opening up.  Jake emailed us to inquire if Congress was fully on board with these new public private partnerships.  Jennifer wanted to know how international participation might change the public private partnership relationship.  Next, I asked Eligar to explain the Acquisition Death Spiral which was in Fig. 4 of his Report paper.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth was our first caller & he wanted to address the risk in a fixed price contract.  John and Eligar had an interesting discussion on controlling costs and risks so don’t miss it.  Later, I asked Eligar to explain the New Entrants Certification Guide (NECG) which was issued in 2011.  This document provides the guidelines for the competitive launch environment for national security and other launch competitors.  Our next caller, Doug, wanted to talk about public private partnerships beyond LEO, specifically the Moon.  Eligar talked with Doug about leveraging assets for the private sector, citing the ISS and a few of the commercial users as examples.  Both Doug and Eligar had a very interesting and comprehensive discussion on this topic which considered cislunar transportation, a lunar hab, possible commercial incentives to drive commercial involvement, and more.  Policy and leadership were part of this discussion as was the fact that there currently is no lunar hab, Lunar Cots, or cislunar transportation policy nor is one being considered.  After the discussion with Eligar ended, we used the balance of our time to discuss the likelihood of a fast moving lunar based Chinese space program influencing the US to fast track developing a lunar hab and cislunar transportation.  Prior to our discussion ending, I asked Eligar how listeners could get copies of the journal Astropolitics as Eligar is the editor for it.

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Eric Berger, Monday, 4-26-15 April 28, 2015

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Eric Berger, Monday, 4-26-15

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Guest:  Eric Berger.  Topics:  Space policy, NASA’s future, commercial space, human spaceflight challenges, & lots more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Eric Berger to the program for a wide ranging discussion on US space policy, NASA, our space future, commercial space and more.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 37 minute show, Eric started the discussion by talking about his early interest in space, his contacting NASA as a child, getting back a great set of photos and other information and being hooked and excited about space ever since.  Some of the early topics in this segment included his surprise that we are not yet beyond low earth orbit with manned spaceflight, then he addressed why it is taking so long to go to Mars , why Mars is the next big step for humans and why going to Mars is so hard.  In his discussion of these topics, he referenced Elon Musk and the SpaceX Mars plans, even Mars One.  I asked Eric for his perspective on the NASA ARM mission which led to one of many discussion of NASA budget constraints and the idea that this or that project is all that can be done within the budget permitted by Congress.  Eric started getting lots of listener emails.  Jenkins wrote in saying that its not the budget that is the problems, the choices we make as a country regarding how we spend money that is the problem.  Eric then referenced the human spaceflight study released last year by the NRC regarding the likelihood that we will be living with tight NASA budgets for the foreseeable future.  Paul in New Mexico asked Eric about the impact of commercial space on policy and NASA.  Eric said it was an important impact so don’t miss his full statement.  Later in the segment, we talked about his seven part “Adrift” series last year and I asked him what his biggest surprise was in researching the articles for the series.  He said it was finding a shift in his view on SLS and that SLS could very well be an important part of our spaceflight future but that it needs to be funded to launch real programs.  He also said that maybe Falcon Heavy could do most of what SLS could do, especially in the Earth-Moon systems but that remains to be seen.  We then talked about the time it took to do various parts of Apollo compared to how much time it takes to do just about anything in space today.  Michael Listner called to talk about needing both NASA & commercial space and some realities involved in policy and space issues.  As the segment was ending, a Portland listener asked if competition with China might develop and force the US to spend more and do more in space.  Don’t miss Eric’s answer.

In the second segment, Eric was asked about space settlement being the goal and the purpose of our National Space Policy through a change in law per March Storm and other groups who are advocating this.  Eric was OK with space settlement but listen to his comments for the full context of his message.  He also said it was hard to figure out what to do with SLS but that some changes might be a full ten years out from today.  We talked about space technology advancements and then Gerald Driggers called in to say we had lots more work to do. For example, we talked about the need to fly a centrifuge in space to determine the gravity RX for humans.  The issue of the lack of space leadership came up from the White House down to the congress.  Many times our guest said it would take a change in leadership to get a change in space leadership but that just changing leadership does not mean the new leader(s) will care about or prioritize space.  Regarding commercial space, he went a bit deeper in this segment.  He said there was lots of commercial space activity but that NASA was still the center of it.  He made the case for the industry needing a broader base than just NASA.  I asked about a Europa mission and another listener asked he could articulate the Senator Ted Cruz view on space policy.  We talked timelines for humans to Mars and for a return to the Moon, he was asked if NASA should be eliminated in favor for a return to something like the old NACA, then Benny in Denver asked about the Texas spaceport facilities being developed for SpaceX and the Blue Origin facility.  As we neared the end of the program, Eric again stressed the difficulty in going to Mars, he looked back at our space history including Gemini 4, and he talked about the Obama policy from 2010 about not going back to the Moon though many in NASA do want to go back to the moon.  Bottom line was Mars around 2050.

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Dr. John Jurist Webinar, Sunday, 4-26-15 April 25, 2015

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                Dr. John Jurist Webinar, Sunday, 4-26-15

Selecting The Rocket Motor, Fuel, & Trade To Optimize The Mission

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Guest:  Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  Choices and consideration in configuring launch systems.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

Welcome to this two hour webinar regarding the choices and considerations that can be made in designing and configuring launch systems.  TO VIEW THE WEBINAR VERSION OFTHIS PROGRAM, GO TO https://vimeo.com/126223310.   Note that on the blog for this program are two Power Point presentations for your use.  Dr. Jurist referred to both of them during the webinar, especially the presentation titled “Choices: Some Considerations in Configuring Launch Systems.”  I urge you to follow along with them during the webinar.  During the first segment, Dr. Jurist explained the target market for the webinar and his two presentations.  He then talked about how hard it was to go to Mars and do other missions.  Then he got to the point by saying in designing or configuring the launch system for a mission, you started with the payload requirements which then provide additional constraints once the payload has been defined.  He also talked about the application of the basic rocket equation and explained the importance of exhaust velocity, the Delta-v, and the mass ratio.  Listeners started asking questions so two stage compared to single stage was discussed.  John pointed to the Choices presentation, slide 8.  He talked about propellant and pressures, both in a pressure fed system and with a turbo pump system.  Another listener asked about solids versus liquids, then Marshall called to talk about rocket g forces.  Dr. Jurist talked about designing the rocket envelope environment to the payload specifications.  He then brought in and discussed the vibration envelope.  Helen asked how things would be different with a human payload rather than a satellite or cargo.  Reliability was a big concern.  Near the end of the segment, Dr. Jurist talked about payload mass in Leo and BLEO.  Doug inquired about the gravity loss during the launch, then the segment ended talking about heavy lift, solids and proportional cost factors for SRBs.

 

In the second segment,  Penny asked how the variable that had been discussed would change were one launch from the Moon or Mars.  Adrian emailed in about the NERVA rocket and nuclear propulsion.  Dr. Jurist used the German V2 as an example of launching from the Moon.  Specific impulse and exhaust velocity came up again, then the focus turned to rocket motor cooling systems.  Questions continued coming in asking about 3D printing of rocket motor parts to lower the cost and the use of hybrid rocket fuels with their advantages and disadvantages.  Regulatory issues came up in this segment as did political issues, plus our guest got a question about amateur rocketry.  A listener asked about environmental concerns over rocket fuel . Dr. Jurist directed the audience to the Choice presentation, slide 22, and talked about ways to possibly shed some weight such as dumping the payload shroud.  Near the end, John got questions about the Falcon Heavy, Doug called in with questions about lunar lander economics and more.  In closing, Dr. Jurist said “the fundamental theme of the presentation was the many variables that come into play in designing or configuring a space launch system, how the many variables are inter-related, and how every decision in the process constrains or narrows the remaining options.”

 

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Dr. John Jurist & Kobi Hudson, Sunday, 4-19-15 April 20, 2015

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Dr. John Jurist & Kobi Hudson, Sunday, 4-19-15

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Guests:  Dr. John Jurist, Kobi Hudson.  Topics:  Orbital ATK 5 segment booster test and the ISS Algae experiment.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dr. John Jurist and Kobi Hudson to the program to discuss their recent experiences at the Orbital ATK 5 segment booster test in Utah and the ISS algae experiment Kobi and his teammates are working on at this time.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 58 minute discussion, John and Kobi talked about viewing the Orbital ATK 5 segment booster test this past March in Utah.  John has attended all the 5 segment booster tests but this was the first one for Kobi who is one of John’s students at Rocky Mountain College in Billings, MT.  Kobi described the test, what it looked like and how it felt from the viewing area, the networking opportunities he had with those attending the test including many executives from across our aerospace industry & NASA.  I asked John and Kobi if they sensed that the Orbital ATK team was aware of the controversy surrounding the final destination for the booster, SLS.  We talked about this for several minutes.  I think you will find what both John and Kobi had to say about this to be very interesting.  This discussion took us into an SLS discussion but from a slightly different perspective than our usual Space Show SLS discussions.  A listener asked our guests if either of them noticed a cultural difference in the test team given the Orbital and ATK merger.  Kobi was asked if the test and the experience inspired him to want to work in the aerospace field which it did.

 

In the second segment, Marshall called to inquire about the use of liquid rocket motors as compared to solids and wanted to know which type was more efficient. Both John and Marshall seemed to agree that it might depend on which type of propulsion system gets more launches and usage though the solids are far simpler.  As part of this discussion, the political dimensions of decision making were brought up as they play a role in the propulsion system and thus influence efficiencies.  Next, we turned to Kobi to explain to us the algae experiment he and others are working and which will fly to the ISS on the SpaceX 7 launch.  Behind this experiment is the goal of testing how well algae grows and how much carbon dioxide it consumes in a zero-gravity environment.  They want to see if it can influence the presence of oxygen in the spaceship.  The algae is grown in an agar solid media.  Kobi went into details on this experiment which I believe you will find of interest. When the team gets the data back from the 28 day test, Kobi will come back to the show to update us on what they found out.  Later in the segment, SLS John called in to follow up on our earlier SLS conversation and the proposed NASA ARM.  Several listener questions came in by email regarding both the issue of solids vs. liquids and the algae experiment.  Kobi also got a question or two about this work on the Firebird cubesat program.  He said it used a polar orbit , was then asked if cubesats could go to the Moon or elsewhere and he said probably but challenging. Doug called to talk closed loop life support and related issues.  The last question came from a high school senior asking Kobi about the need to attend a Tier One school and the consequences for going to a school not as well known and not as highly ranked.  All three of us, Kobi, myself, and John responded to this question saying about the same thing but in different words.  Both John and Kobi offered concluding comments you don’t want to miss.

 

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15 April 15, 2015

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15

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Guest: Rand Simberg. Topics: SpaceX, ULA, Mars, space policy, Moon N=Mars debate and much more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rand Simberg to the program. During the first segment of our 100 minute program, Rand discussed the Falcon 9 launch and barge landing attempt of the first stage. Before he finished his discussion, Dr. Lurio called in and joined in on the speculation as to why the landing was unsuccessful. Both Rand and Charles thought it might be wind but as you will hear, that was just their opinion. Next, the two of them turned to the ULA announcement about the Vulcan rocket and their plans to recover in air from a supersonic parachute using a helicopter. They want to recover the rocket’s main engine. This discussion between Charles and Rand dominated the first segment of the program. Near the end of the first segment, I asked Rand about the ARM and it being redirected to Mars and Phobos. Rand had much to say about this so don’t miss it.

In the second segment, in response to earlier comments made by Rand in the first segment, Sally sent in a note asking if the next NASA administrator might make a difference and actually matter. Again, don’t miss what Rand had to say about this plus bipartisanship and the work of Congressman Dana Rohrabacher who wants to change the our space policy to one of having the main purpose to settle space. Rand also said he would personally like to “ban” the phrase space exploration. Listen to his explanation on this point. Rand was asked about the Moon-Mars debate which he thought was absurd given that the issue was not about destinations but getting the needed infrastructure in space so one can go anywhere. Without the infrastructure, even a gravity lab, talking destinations makes no sense. Due to a few listener questions, Rand also had some choice comments for Mars One. Another listener asked Rand what parts of the commercial space industry impressed him the most. This led to a discussion about suborbital flight and markets. Becky asked him about his Transterrestrial blog (http://www.transterrestrial.com) and the non-space portion of it, I asked him about military space and then Tim called to talk about affordable small sat launches and to inquire if we were embarking on a space race over low cost launch opportunities that may be emerging. Rand also talked about the upcoming Space Access Society meeting and the talk he plans to give at the event. Rhonda in Petaluma asked Rand what caused his transition from traditional aerospace to NewSpace. Don’t miss this, it is really interesting.

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 3-24-15 March 25, 2015

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 3-24-15

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics: A variety of space news topics and projects were discussed on this two hour program. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Bob Zimmerman to the show for this 122 minute discussion on a wide range and variety of space news and project topics.  During the first segment, Bob spoke about Virgin Galactic and Launcher One delays, comparing it to the recent news that the AF will soon be testing a small satellite rail gun launcher, Super Strypi.  Bob suggested that the market might be passing VG by.  He also spoke to suborbital space both with VG and XCOR and true to form, was still skeptical about their potential success.  Some of Bob’s comments were challenged by listeners later in the show so stay tuned.  Next up Bob talked about the Russians opening up ISS tourism again in 2018 saying that the Russians believe the American private sector will be successful in transporting astronauts to and from the ISS by then so they will have available seats for tourists.  Don’t miss his comments on this subject.  He was asked about XCOR and he offered more comments on the company and suborbital space in general.  He then turned to the current round of ISS cargo bidding and compared it to the first round of cargo bidding a decade ago.  His comparison was most interesting and goes to the success being made by the developing commercial space sector.  Marshall was our first caller and talked about the next big planetary or HSF mission.  He also wanted Bob to discuss colonization.  Bob said he supported it but was realistic.  Bob then spoke about both the new Russian spaceport Vostochny and compared it to the progress being made by SpaceX and their new Brownsville spaceport.  He had much to say on this.  A listener emailed him to explain the space policy position of Sen. Ted Cruz.  That turned out to be quite a discussion, including Bob opining once again on SLS. Becky in Florida asked Bob about Mars One and Bob said it was a boondoggle.

 

In the second segment, Dr. Charles Lurio was our first caller.  Charles wanted to take Bob behind the woodshed on three points:  First, his comments on Kistler were wrong as the company was Rocketplane Kistler plus other details Bob missed. Second, he said Excalibur Almaz was not a fraud. This resulted in quite the exchange with Bob. The third area that upset Charles the most dealt with the comments Bob made about XCOR.  Charles was determined to correct the record on XCOR so again, don’t miss this exchange.  I asked Bob about the Indian space program and specifically their human spaceflight program.  Jerry from Florida emailed in additional info on Rocketplane Kistler.  SLS John called in to argue with Bob on his SLS comments.  I call their argument a draw with all participants including myself saying what we have been saying about SLS for years.  The subject of presidential leadership came up and Bob did his best to point out that it was probably a myth as far as space goes plus he cited supporting examples.  I pointed out that more than likely our next president, regardless of party, would have their hands full of solving major problems and I cited education as an example, referencing a recent survey I had seen showing just how poorly the US ranks worldwide in several educational areas.  This opened up a STEM discussion with Tim in Huntsville and Bob.  Jerry from Florida emailed in data showing that the Falcon Heavy would have more capability than SLS block one according to comments made by Ms. Shotwell at Satellite 2015.  This opened up another discussion on SLS, Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy.  Here is an Aviation Week article that summarizes the comments Shotwell made at the event: http://aviationweek.com/blog/spacexs-gwynne-shotwell-talks-raptor-falcon-9-crs-2-satellite-internet-and-more.  Thanks to Jerry for providing us with this information and the article.   As the show was ending, Bob identified areas to watch for the second quarter and the balance of the year.

 

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Dr. John Logsdon, Monday, 3-16-15 March 17, 2015

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Dr. John Logsdon, Monday, 3-16-15

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Guest: Dr. John Logsdon. Topics: Professor Logsdon’s new book, “After Apollo? Richard Nixon and the American Space Program,” plus our guest responded to many space policy questions then and now. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back to the show Dr. John Logsdon to discuss his new book, “After Apollo? Richard Nixon and the American Space Program.” During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Dr. Logsdon provided us with the multi-year history behind his researching and writing this book. We talked about the Space Shuttle but also the gap within NASA and parts of the space community including the advocate community between having great expectations but insufficient resources to support the great expectations. We talked about the likelihood of significant NASA budget increases in coming years and while possible, our guest said it was unlikely. President Nixon wanted space to be considered routine and NASA to compete for funding with other parts of the discretionary budget. What President Nixon set in motion is continuing through this day. Dr. Logsdon said policy normally comes from the White House but recently policy for SLS came from the Senate because they did not like what President Obama was doing. We talked about the long range impact of the Nixon space policy even through today and at one point Dr. Logsdon suggested that maybe Nixon got it right regarding American public sentiment about space. Our guest received questions about planetary science and its accomplishments and other listeners inquired about public/private partnerships. Still, our guest said that only governments really have the resources to carry out the type of space investment needed for exploration. Listeners asked about other forces of the time including the Cold War and space policy champions in leadership positions such as Tom Paine who was the NASA Administrator. Dr. Logsdon was asked how things might have been different had Hubert Humphry been elected president. Mars was also discussed, then Dr. Logsdon talked about the space shuttle history. In response to several questions, he shared his thoughts and experiences from his time spent serving on the CAIB. Another topic in this segment dealt with space advocacy. Our guest said we need advocacy to keep the dream alive until leadership makes it happen. He said talk about settlement and pioneering were mainly just words. Pioneering needed to answer two questions which he addressed before the break.

In segment two, we talked about the ISS and Shuttle having consumed the HSF budget and now the ISS does that with about $3 billion per year. Using the shuttle for national defense and security during the Nixon years was also a discussion topic as Nixon liked national security issues. Dr. Logsdon had much to say about the shuttle’s use by the military and for national security. You might be surprised by what you hear. As for human spaceflight, Dr. Logsdon referred her to the NRC Pathways Study which we have discussed many times on The Space Show. More questions came in regarding space advocacy which he said pushes the boundaries of realism and needs to be balanced between sober reality and pure fantasy. Tony emailed us to ask about SLS/Orion, private space over NASA, and Elon Musk and his Mars settlement plans. A question came in about being motivated by the Chinese space program. For closing remarks, Dr. Logsdon addressed the Nixon space policy and program legacy which still influences us today.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Dr. Logsdon through me. When purchasing his book through Amazon, please use the OGLF Amazon link on the website and all archive programs as Amazon will then contribute a percentage of the sale price to The Space Show. Thank you.

Marcia Smith, Friday, 3-13-15 March 14, 2015

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Marcia Smith, Friday, 3-13-15

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Guest:  Marcia Smith.  Topics:  NASA budgets and their process, specific NASA programs, U.S. congress and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Marcia Smith back to the program to discuss the proposed NASA FY 16 budget and process, sequestration, specific NASA projects and more.  During our one segment 69 minute discussion, Ms. Smith started out by stating that the proposed 2016 FY NASA budget was bigger than the 2015 NASA budget by about $500 million!  Ms. Smith continued saying the trend was upward with continued strong support for SLS, Orion, and even Europa.  Also, NASA remains largely bipartisan in its congressional support.  I asked our guest about the coming sequestration for 2016-2021 and here, uncertainty prevails.  We also learned that there would be more flexibility for targeted sequestration cuts than there were the first time.  Sequestration has a focus towards two categories, security and non-security projects and expenditures.  Bob in Tucson sent in our first email to inquire about a possible “war” within the NASA planetary science and human spaceflight directorates.  A question came in regarding congressional motivators with a focus on SLS motivators.  Among the SLS motivators mentioned by our guest were national prestige, global leadership, preserving and growing our industrial base, and keeping people employed.  Jerry emailed in asking about NASA educational outreach and support in the proposed FY 16 budget.  Our first caller was Michael Listner who wanted to expand on earlier comments about the private sector and NASA, specifically government programs.  Marcia and Michael had an interesting discussion focusing on these issues.  Both cited examples including ULA, the EELV program, and the concept of “skin in the game plus the opportunity for a private sector company to fail and maybe needing a government bailout if all our eggs were in that one private sector basket. The new Lockheed Jupiter commercial cargo space tug program was mentioned and Michael said it might be useful for removal of some space debris.  The subject of building LEO infrastructure came up multiple times during our discussion, especially the issue of who or what entity would pay for its development. Government or the private sector?  BJohn asked Marcia email questions about reusability thus providing NASA with more “bang for the buck” so to speak.  I asked Marcia several questions about the discretionary part of our budget, we talked more about the Europa mission and the best way to influence congressional space policy makers.  Our guest had some very interesting things to say about this so don’t miss the discussion.  Near the end of the program, I asked if there was any serious effort to move to ten year funding for space and other very long projects given the likelihood of a program not lasting ten years due to congressional changes and program cuts.  Marcia did mention that the shuttle and ISS programs survived so it was possible for a program to last a long time. She also did not think there would be ten year funding as congress would not give up its continue oversight responsibilities for such a long term obligation.  Peter in San Diego asked about the 2016 elections and if we were likely to see a radical shift in space policy.  Donald in Los Angeles asked if the one party congress would get the budget done or if we were likely to see a CR at the end of September.  BJohn sent in another email asking about possible congressional motivators to be even more supportive of space than they have been given their $500 million budget increase.  Beverly asked Marcia about international cooperation with space projects.  Marcia said she was a strong supporter of international cooperation.  She also provided us with a few of her excellent reasons for supporting international cooperation.  Before the program ended, we came back to the issue of LEO infrastructure and cislunar development.  Given the private sector’s reluctance to invest in these areas so far, a natural conclusion would be that the private or commercial markets are not yet developed.

Please post your comments on TSS blog above.  Visit Marcia’s site, www.spacepolicyonline.com for the latest in space new and policy developments.  You can reach Ms. Smith through her website or me.

 

Dr. Asif Siddiqi, Sunday, 2-22-15 February 23, 2015

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Dr. Asif Siddiqi, Sunday, 2-22-15

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Guest:  Dr. Asif Siddiqi.  Topics:  Early space history through current times plus a historical perspective on commercial space & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Asif Siddiqi to the show.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 53 minute program, Dr. Siddiqi started out with my question about what was going on with space in 1946, the year I was born.  He talked about the early days of space programs from the war, the Soviet Union and the US.  We soon jumped forward to 1969, NASA, Apollo, the Moon, and how many of us from that era thought we were “entitled” to move forward in space to Mars and more.  Our guest had much to say about this space entitlement culture, expectations, and the realities of the time.  We talked about making giant leaps forward rather than a step by step evolving process of moving forward.  Listeners asked him who got the better deal after WW2 with the German rocket scientists, the Soviet Union or the US?  This opened the door to an extensive discussion about Dr. Wernher von Braun.  Asif talked about robotic exploration and the excellent work other space nations and agencies were doing in this field.  John in Ft. Worth called in talked about the impact of the failures of the Soviet Moon Rocket, the N-1.  Our guest and John also talked about the impact of not having competition in the Moon program and how that may have negatively influenced our space program going forward.  Dwayne called and we talked about many topics including the recently concluded Pioneering Space National Summit held in Washington, DC this past week to Mars One, the German rocket scientists after WW2, Arthur Rudolph and Karel Bossart of Atlas rocket fame.

In our second segment, John in Florida called to talk about the conspiracy theory that says the Germans purposely slowed progress on rockets.  This was refuted for other reasons that caused some delays in our program and Russian launching Sputnik before we launched our first satellite.  Next, we turned our attention to the Indian space program which is ambitious but Asif suggested that for now it may be exceeding its capabilities.  Our guest noted they were starting a human spaceflight program and that India was concerned with China and possibly competing with them in space.  The Indian military space program was mentioned as well.  Marshall called and talked about Elon and SpaceX.  Asif had some important things to say about SpaceX, commercial space and government programs.  As we were approaching the end of our program, I asked him what he thought the space history would reflect if written in 2025 for the past decade, the time from now to 2025.  Dr. Siddiqi said it was hard to look forward but he thought some form of Orion would be flying, was not sure about SLS given the proposed low flight rate and suggested ARM won’t happen.  He mentioned many other possibilities for this theoretical ten year time period .   Dwayne called back to comment on Asif’s earlier comments about corporate space programs and policies.  Asif mentioned books and subjects that he liked to review for historical purposes plus he said new historical documents were in such different formats than earlier documents he was not sure how this might influence or impact the work of future historians.  As the show ended, I asked him if thought the Moon would be as hard to return to as going to Mars might be for humans.  He said no because the barriers for going back to the Moon were low compared to Mars and other destinations.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Dr. Asif Siddiqi through me.

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