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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15 October 19, 2015

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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15

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Guests: Jay Wittner, Ron Jones. Topics: The Integrated Space Plan which is a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed both Jay Wittner and Ron Jones to the program to discuss the Integrated Space Plan (ISP), “a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Vehicles, Stations, Settlements, Moon, Mars, Asteroids.” You can see the ISP at https://integratedspaceanalytics.com/cms/plan and also their previously successful Kickstarter site, www.kickstarter.com/projects/486671231/integrated-space-plan-envisioning-humanitys-future. Wired Magazine did an excellent article on the plan which you can download and read at www.wired.com/2015/08/wildly-detailed-100-year-plan-getting-humans-mars.. Discovery also did a nice article on the ISP dated Oct. 16, 2015 which you can read and download @ http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/isp-the-ultimate-plan-to-launch-humanity-to-the-stars-151016.htm. During the first segment, Ron provided us with the history of the ISP which goes back several decades. He explained its purpose and how it has changed and evolved over time. In fact, later in the show I asked our guests if the time had finally come for the ISP to come into its own given the developments and progress in space development. You will certainly want to hear this discussion which comes much later in the show. The first segment is mostly devoted to describing the ISP and responding to basic listener questions about it as it was new to most listeners. I also urge you to look at it on the web using the above links so you can be come familiar with the plan and its blocks. Remember, it is a broad enabling approach that includes many different paths to accomplish space development, exploration and a spacefaring economy/society. It is not about a specific program or project as we are used to discussing on The Space Show. Specific plans and projects can nicely fit in the appropriate blocks on the ISP as the ISP is a collection of logical and plausible multiple paths to space development without saying this or that specific plan is THE plan we must follow. Toward the end of the first segment, John in Freemont, CA asked about the Shackleton Energy plan as was recently discussed on The Space Show. This was a good example for our guests to show how the ISP could nicely accommodate the Shackleton plan but that the ISP was actually much broader and more inclusive than just the three part Shackleton plan discussed on The Space Show. As you will hear, there is no conflict between the two.

In the second segment, Jay was asked how people could get a poster copy of the ISP. Jay and Ron told listeners how to order a poster copy (the rolled version in a tube is the best way to get it). We also talked about support for the ISP by many from within all segments of the space industry. Later, much was said about outreach for the private sector and also the student population, especially through SEDS. Jay and Ron invited listener participation and feedback and they gave out their respective email addresses or told listeners how to find their addresses on their website, www.thespaceplan.com.   We talked about disruptive technologies and how they were represented on the ISP. GPS was used as an example since I referenced Uber from our Friday Space Show program. As part of our disruptive discussion, our guests talked about SpaceX, the Falcon Heavy, reusability, and more. A listener asked about cislunar development and how that was represented on the ISP. Frequent Space Show guest Gerald Driggers called in with many interesting comments so make sure you listen to his discussion. His call was followed by John from Ft. Worth asking about actual markets & customers for the businesses.  Our guests talked about the key to customers would be lowering the cost to orbit, then they mentioned space tourism and specific payloads. As our program was ending, both guests offered closing comments and take away statements.   Both made a final appeal for listener participation and feedback as the ISP is a continuingly evolving plan.

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Michael Soluri, Friday, 12-12-14 December 13, 2014

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Michael Soluri, Friday, 12-12-14

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Guest:  Michael Soluri.  Topics:  Hubble Repair Mission STS-125 as portrayed in his book, “Infinite Worlds.,” NASA & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed author and photographer Michael Soluri to the show to discuss his behind the scenes documentary work for STS-125, the final Hubble Space Telescope repair mission and his book, “infinite Worlds.”  During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Michael provided us with the background on how he was able to go inside NASA, be with the STS-125 crew, and photographically document all aspects of the final Hubble Space Telescope Repair Mission.  His book “Infinite Worlds” is truly a behind the scenes photographic documentation of this mission, a must have book as you will hear me say throughout the program.  Remember, if you buy it through TSS/OGLF Amazon portal detailed on all archived programs and both websites, Amazon makes a contribution to TSS.OGLF.  Listeners asked Michael many questions about the STS-125 crew regarding risk, safety, the rescue mission that was on the pad ready to go and more.  Michael also told us about asking the veteran crew members about the quality of light in space so better space pictures could be made.  This led to a workshop where Michael helped the crew in looking at things in space differently to get better and different pictures.  Michael talked about the support he got from Goddard, seeing the training in the Hi Bay clean room and even meeting and talking with the crew families.  We talked about the initial mission cancellation, then the reinstatement by Mike Griffin.  Michael also worked in his early documentation work on the New Horizons mission to Pluto, a mission he is still documenting as we await the July 2015 arrival at the planet.  He was also asked about the James Webb Space Telescope  and if he thought it might take up and continue in our culture as much as Hubble has been a part of our culture.

In the second segment, we talked about on orbit servicing and the essay in his book by the father of on orbit servicing, Frank Cepollina.  Michael then told about the Hubble tools and how unique and artistic they were being all rounded with features designed for use when wearing a pressure glove in space, not for use here on Earth.  He also told us about being able to photograph the tools in the Hi Bay which he did as objects of art.  Later on in the segment, we talked about the end of the space shuttle, the modern capsules replacing it from SpaceX and the other companies, and the difference with a transportation system which is what is being developed today and the space system which has been lost due to the shuttle retirement.  Michael was asked by another listener about the space entrepreneurs.  He has not had contact with them but says they are different from earlier space venture participants as they are all about business and making money and the business types don talk about “poetry.”  Our guest was asked about NASA public outreach and inspiration and for the most part he said that we had to do that for space, not NASA.  We need to be persistent, to inspire, to be passionate.  He said not expect those within the organization to do it.  The taxpayers themselves need to do it.  Michael offered us interesting concluding comments and thoughts so don’t miss what he had to say.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Michael Soluri through me or his website, http://www.michaelsoluri.com.

Dr. Frank Martin, Tuesday, 9-23-14 September 24, 2014

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Dr. Frank Martin, Tuesday, 9-23-14

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Guest:  Dr. Frank Martin.  Topic:  The NRC “Pathways to Exploration: Rationales and Approaches for a U.S. Program of Human Space Exploration” report.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Frank Martin to the program to discus the NRC human spaceflight study along with all aspects of human spaceflight including various destinations and missions.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 39 minute show, Dr. Martin introduced us to the NRC Pathways study which you can download for free by using Google.  He suggested it was a dose of reality as well as optimism.  He said the study was very clear in saying “show me the money” for those wanting to do humans to Mars missions now or fairly soon and then explained some of the high costs and trades involved in these missions.  One of his overriding themes throughout our discussion was the need to manage a very large mass in LEO in order to accomplish the goals of long duration human space mission.  During our segment, we kept coming back to the need to manage a large mass in LEO and how this translated to costs as well as the need for technology advancement.  Both myself and listeners asked our guest about doing human missions cheaper by using the private sector.  This subject kept coming up during both segments of the program.  We also addressed the rational for human spaceflight.  In addition, the issue of walking away from HSF was looked at for the US as a nation as that is an option. The report attempted to address this and related issues.   Joe sent in an email about the mice on the ISS and using them to determine the gravity RX for HSF.  He sent us several additional emails on this subject as well.  This prompted comments about the need to use the ISS for research in support of long duration HSF missions.  Dr. Martin said Mars was an horizon goal.  In this context, he talked about only a few other possible destinations near us, either the Moon or an asteroid.  He then proceeded to address the issue of managing the risk for a Mars mission.  Beverly asked a budget question and taking the lead from the most recent Mike Griffin interview, she asked Frank if it really was just a choice to be constrained by budget issues.  While Frank agreed it was a choice, he said there were very good ways and choices to spend taxpayer money so he did not see significantly more money for space in the future.  Another listener talked about nuclear propulsion which also crossed into the second segment.  Near the end of the first segment, we got a call from a New Zealand listener.  During his call, the idea of the Buzz Aldrin Mars cycler came up and there was a question or two about fuel depots.

In the second segment, I asked Dr. Martin why the study took 18 months, then SLS John called the program.  John wanted to talk nuclear propulsion thinking it would be a cost saver but what was not known was the accurate cost of the R&D program or the cost for jumping through political hurdles.  John suggested a new administration would make a difference and I challenged that.  I asked Frank given all his years of space industry experience if it was reasonable to expect big changes in space policy due to a change in administrations.  Don’t miss Frank’s reply.  Dwayne called back to question the HSF rational. One of the points made by Dwayne was that cooperation with the Russians on the ISS does not modify Russia’s behavior other than for space.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Dr. Frank Martin through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 1-26-14 January 27, 2014

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 1-26-14

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.    Topics: Space policy, cislunar development, The Moon, Clementine & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Spudis back to the show for this 1 hour 54 minute wide ranging discussion on space policy, lunar activities, the Chinese space program, SLS, weapons in space, military space, and more.  In our first segment, Dr. Spudis started with a report on the Chinese lunar lander/rover and said that he was hearing there were problems with it.  Since the Chinese program is not transparent, he said it was hard to get details but even if the mission ended early, it met its goals of a soft landing on the Moon.  He had more to say about the lander, the accomplishments of the Chinese program and some of the real progress by the Chinese, especially from their next to last mission.  Dr. Spudis fielded many email questions and took calls.  Our guest then started talking about the Clementine mission given its been 20 years since this very successful program.  You can read his articles about Clementine on his website (spudislunarresources.com and also his blog, http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon.  He also talked about LCROSS and other recent missions.  Just before the end of the first segment, Marshall phoned in to talk about taxing lunar entrepreneurial ventures. We also talked benefit sharing, global taxation, and commercial incentives.  We closed the segment with Paul talking about the economic and wealth creating potential afforded us all by cislunar development.

In the second segment, he responded to an email question about the Earth-Mars space system having a higher commercial value than cislunar.  Paul explained in some detail why that was not so & why cislunar is far greater in economic value and wealth potential.  Paul then talked about Hugh Dryden & his accomplishments, then renaming the Dryden NASA facility after Neil Armstrong.  Our next subject was American Exceptionalism with Paul blogged about last year.  We then talked about space tourism.  Paul said he was skeptical about it but we just wait and see. I mentioned a new book about Sir Richard Branson & problems with Virgin Galactic by British author Tom Bower.  Here is an article that describes what we talked about:  www.newspacejournal.com/2014/01/26/new-branson-bio-examines-delays-and-other-problems-with-virgin-galactic.  Paul got a question from Phil to describe lunar ice, then SLS John called to agree with Paul’s SLS analysis and more.  Rick was our final emailer asking about the ASRG cancellation and what this means for deep space & long duration missions.  Paul’s concluding comments again supported the wealth & economic potential for cislunar development.

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Dr. William Halal, Sunday, 1-5-14 January 6, 2014

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Dr. William Halal, Sunday, 1-5-14

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Guest:  Dr. William (Bill) Halal.  Topics:  Space forecasting for the near and long term.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. William Halal to our program for a 1 hour 48 minute discussion on predictions for both near and long term space development.  In our first segment, we focused on the near term predictions that mostly centered on continued growth of space commercialization and the emergence of space tourism.  Additional topics talked about in the first segment included the Chinese space program and its possible impact on the U.S. space program, heavy lift and SLS, the space media and its potential space tourism accident response, commercial activity on the ISS, and space entrepreneurism.  Dr. Halal also directed our attention to his website, www.techcast.org which will soon migrate to www.technicalglobal.com.  Listeners asked our guest about the biggest challenges facing both commercial space and space tourism, then our guest talked about big growth possibilities with solar satellites.  Issues were addressed regarding our congress, economics, and the tensions among all the players.

In the second segment, we talked about knowledge emerging as the powerful tool of the near to intermediate term.  Dr. Halal suggested tourism would be in place around 2015 and the commercial industry would keep developing to the 2020 range.  John called from Ft. Worth to draw comparisons to our early military and aviation history, suggesting the role of the government might be to continue developing hardware and infrastructure that would eventually enhance the commercial players much the way the military aircraft had dual use with the commercial industry.  John also had comments about asteroid missions which our guest brought up in this segment.  Dr. Halal mentioned the potential of interstellar travel around 2070 and the possibility of solar satellites coming on line much sooner.  We talked about going to Mars and the Moon and about Mars One and Inspiration Mars.  Doug was the next caller and he talked about depots and large rockets, specifically for missions BLEO and the Moon.  Doug brought up SpaceX heavy lift concepts, Martian terraforming, and SpaceX orbital human spaceflight around 2017.  As our program was ending, we talked about the rate of change going on in the world today and its impact on people in different age groups.  He said we all need to be prepared for a turbulent and transformative time as he does not believe current global systems are sustainable and will have to make way for new systems and programs.

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13 December 4, 2013

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  launch competition, commercial space, China, gov. space programs, budget issues.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Bob Zimmerman for his Tenth Anniversary Space Show program!  During the first segment of this two hour two minute program, Bob addressed many issues and listener concerns starting with the SpaceX Falcon 9 GEO launch success & the looking back to his first Space Show program on Dec. 3, 2003.  He compared and contrasted his comments then to those today. He also blogged about this on his Behindtheblack.com blog at http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/exciting-times-in-space.  Listeners expressed their concern about the Chinese space program, their recent lunar landing mission and the day when they can put a human on the Moon.  Listeners wanted to know if this would spark a new space race between China and the U.S.  Bob said no and I agreed with him for slightly different reasons.  However, one of Bob’s consistent and recurring themes (and tonight’s discussion was no different) is that he opposes large government space programs as he says they don’t work.  He provided much evidence for this during our discussion.  During this segment we also talked extensively about launch competition and the benefits from competition in the marketplace.  Listener Al asked about DOD space and if DOD might see the Chinese space program differently.  Bob also mentioned space property rights and he said the existing situation should change based on U.S. law as the model for commercial space to flourish.  There was more talk about the Chinese program which Bob was not too concerned about.  Listen for his reasoning.  John in Ft. Worth called in to also talk about the Chinese program and suggested at some point their success might just humiliate the U.S. into competitive action.  Neither Bob or I thought it was likely that anything would humiliate congress today.  John and Bob then had an interesting discussion on this subject.

In Part 2 of our program, Dr. Lurio called in to talk about being thrilled to the bone by the SpaceX launch and to comment on NewSpace & commercial space issues. Like Bob, he opposes SLS as a big waste.  Bob and Charles then talked about their distaste for large gov. programs such as what JFK created, again saying they don’t work.  Both wondered what space and other things would look like today had JFK not been assassinated.  Dream Chaser was mentioned, again as everyone’s favorite spacecraft.  Al emailed in again to point out the differences in the space perspective of seniors and young people.  Tim called in to mention the Code of Conduct issue with possible international launch standards and how this might hurt the developing US commercial launch business.  I mentioned a Business Week article saying the suborbitals are going to look to R&D flights for repeat customers which they definitely need. Here is the article: www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-27/spaceflight-companies-virgin-galactic-xcor-blue-origin-eye-r-and-d-clients.  Toward the end of the program there was more talk about SLS, NASA budget issues, the need to cancel SLS per Bob’s perspective, and economic risks posed to NASA’s planetary science program.  Bob closed out the program with his comments on Inspiration Mars and Mars One, plus a Von Braun comment from 1954 in which it was reported that he said it would take 100 years of research in space to travel to Mars.  Bob said its been 60 years so far and we do not have the capability to do a human flight to Mars today.  Lurio mailed in the last comment about the NASA press conference earlier in the day with his and Bob’s reading that the planetary program was all but dead financially.  The final comments dealt with SLS and the Redirect Mission which Bob completely discounted.

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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 10-15-13 October 16, 2013

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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 10-15-13

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Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  Space policy & budgets, commercial space & entrepreneurism, wealth creation.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 90 minute discussion regarding space policy, budgets, commercial space, space entrepreneurism, cubesats, ISS, and much more. In our first segment, Dennis discussed his recent article, “NASA Will Face Solomon’s Choice in 2014” posted on Oct. 2, 2013 at http://spaceref.com/missions-and-programs/nasa/nasa-will-face-solomons-choice-in-2014.html.  In this article and in our discussion, our guest focused on the probability of NASA budget cuts in the current environment and the probable impact upon the agency.  Thus, NASA or Congress might find that they have to make a Solomon like choice for program funding between SLS/Orion or the ISS.  Listeners wanted to know if cutting commercial crew would give NASA sufficient funding for the other two programs.  The short answer was no but listen to the full explanation provided by our guest.  Dennis then talked about both SLS and ISS and the commercial & entrepreneurial future now developing with ISS with small satellites and space start-ups.  Referencing recent comments by Dr. Griffin, Dennis said in a perfect world with wise political leadership, we would be funding all sorts of space development projects as they create wealth, open the doors for businessmen and women with abundant opportunities and so much more but for the past 40 years he said we have not had wise political leadership. Instead. rather than investing in our future, politicians have invested in buying votes.  He talked about this issue throughout the balance of our program.  Dennis mentioned he was doing tonight’s program aboard the icebreaker Maritol docked at Pier 50 in the SF Bay.  The Maritol has become a hacker space and business incubator for small satellite and related space businesses.  In the second segment, he went into more detail about the Maritol and the eviction threat it is facing from the SF Port.  He also talked about GEO being a huge market but very costly which is why the focus is now on small satellites and developing profitable, cost effective businesses and models.

In our second segment, Tim called with several SLS, ISS, and 3 D printing questions, including asking how much mass was needed to build a Moon base.  We then talked about capital acquisition and the characteristics of ventures funded by Silicon Valley venture capital financiers.  Dennis said the timing was now right and we should adopt the zero g zero tax bill, and that we should be implementing the JOBS Act Title II which allows for crowdfunding investment.  Read about it at http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/23/crowdfunding-with-jobs-act-title-ii-the-web-will-eat-financing-and-investing.  John called in to express his views on the Solomon’s Choice options, then we talked some more about the Maritol docked at Pier 50.  Here are some articles about it: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/startups-aboard-icebreaker-ship-could-face-eviction-soon-san-francisco-says (this article talks about its possible eviction & has a link to the petition you can sign to keep the Maritol in the Bay);  www.forbes.com/sites/rakeshsharma/2013/10/07/a-ship-a-couple-of-startups-and-the-bay; and here are some pictures of the icebreaker, www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/The-Icelandic-Cargo-Ship-Maritol-127274388.html.  As you will hear, it is important to sign the petition to keep this space business incubator in the SF Bay.

Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  Check out the Dennis Wingo blog at www.denniswingo.wordpress.com.

Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, EVOLOTERRA, Tuesday, 7-16-13 July 17, 2013

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Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, EVOLOTERRA, Tuesday, 7-16-13

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Guests:  Rand Simberg, William (Bill) Simon.  Topics.  We talked about Evoloterra (www.evoloterra.com) & its meaning.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  We welcomed back Rand Simberg and Bill Simon for our annual Evoloterra program which remembers and honors the first time humans left Earth for another planet.  Apollo 11 launched for the Moon on July 19, 1969 and landed on the Moon on July 20, 1969.  You can learn more about Evoloterra and actually do the ceremony this Saturday evening, July 20, with your friends and families by visiting www.evoloterra.com.  Click on the astronaut’s helmet to go to the pdf of the Evoloterra ceremony.

In the first segment of our 1 hour 33 minute program, we started out by asking Rand if his new book, “Safe Is Not An Option: Overcoming The Futile Obsession With Getting Everyone Back Alive That Is Killing Our Expansion Into Space” was completed and if he would have it with him for autograph sales at the upcoming NewSpace Conference. Rand and Bill talked about the focus of the book for those not familiar with it, I offered Rand comments from various Space Show guests, and we then connected the dots with the primary focus of the book to the purpose of our program tonight, Evoloterra.  You can find out more about Rand’s book by visiting http://safeisnotanoption.com.  Bill and Rand then discussed Evoloterra and its significance, plus they talked about the story being told in Evoloterra from the beginning of Earth 14 billion years or so ago to our first leaving Earth for the Moon. This year, we wove in space policy, the budget, and also human spaceflight risk taking which is what Rand talks about in his book.  Rand repeated many times over what he has been saying for a long time, including on The Space Show, that space is not important to the policy planners in the government unless they have space jobs in their districts.  Rand brought up the issue of space settlement and he cited Steve Wolfe’s new book, “The Obligation,” as a must read on the subject.  Listeners asked about the ceremony, & if it was attempting to make space & the Moon landing into some sort of religion.  Rand talked then talked about government policies that took us to the Moon for the wrong reasons (military in the Cold War) and subsequent policies that have hobbled us in opening up the space frontier.  As the segment was ending, our guests talked about Evoloterra celebrating a long time line of individual accomplishments, all of which together, enabled us to leave Earth for the Moon for the first time.

In our shorter second segment, our guests talked about delegating space policy to congressional committees and what the significance of doing that has meant for space policy.  They spoke about the VAB at KSC and our failure to make use of it to maximize our space policy after the Apollo program ended.  Rand had more to say about our Cold War policy and its impact on space policy and development.  He suggested there have been many possible alternative trajectories for technology development over the years which we missed out on.  Our guests talked about the fact that the entrepreneurs will lead the way to space development but they also explained the ongoing importance of constructive government policy.  In response to several questions, our guests said many times over that the Evoloterra ceremony does not solve problems and we should not expect it to influence policy makers.  Rand mentioned an earlier Evoloterra Space Show program where we read the ceremony. You can find that program at http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1818-BWB-2012-07-20.mp3.  Margaret Jordan, the additional Evoloterra author was with us for this program and the reading of the Evoloterra ceremony.

If you have comments/questions for our guests, please post them on The Space Show blog.  You can email Rand & Bill through me.

Lawrence Williams, Wednesday, 6-6-12 June 6, 2012

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Lawrence Williams, Wednesday, 6-6-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1789-BWB-2012-06-06.mp3

Guest:  Lawrence Williams.  Topics:  SpaceX, government policy, strategic relations, space capital investment and more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Lawrence Williams back to the show to discuss his 8.5 years with SpaceX to talk reality about strategic government relations, NASA, congress, competition, capital investment needs, markets, and policy.  During this nonstop one hour discussion, Lawrence took us through from the start to today regarding the evolution of COTS and commercial space policy, plus growth for SpaceX.  We talked about specific members of Congress and policies, the need for Members of Congress to pay attention to their constituents even when by doing so policies, rhetoric, or actions materialized that were not always in the best interest of COTS, commercial space, and companies including SpaceX.  Listeners asked about ITAR issues, launch licensees, and even personality issues with key NASA and Congressional space policy leaders.  Lawrence also told us about his new business, Capture10 (www.capture10.com) as he decided to leave SpaceX to put his skills to work in his own consulting business to be able to take advantage of the opportunities now developing in commercial space as a result of the SpaceX successes, accomplishments, and getting that commercial space door opened enough for others to also see opportunities.  As Lawrence explained it, Capture10 is a business development and strategy firm that will help businesses identify, pursue and capture new billion dollar markets within the technology, telecommunications, and aerospace industries.  Lawrence talked with us about some of the opportunities now emerging in aerospace.  At one point, we talked with him about orbital and suborbital. As you will hear, most of his focus is on orbital because of his experience and his clients, but he has not overlooked the suborbital potential.  I asked our guest about the impact of the US and global economy on capital investment in space.  You might be surprised by his answer.  We talked about Congressman Wolfe and some of his comments, as well as the role of government regulation and even the UN space treaties per the emerging commercial space industry.  This is a fact and power packed hour discussion with an expert that has the political sense, the discernment, the “in the trenches” experience, and the lobbying know how to help a space company take roots, grow, and become successful.  In addition, I believe the professionalism exhibited by Lawrence in responding to many of the questions demonstrates why such skills are crucial to both the company and industry success for space commerce and why Lawrence has been so good at doing this work for the past eight years with SpaceX.

If you have questions/comments regarding this interview, please post them on The Space Show blog.  If you want to contact Lawrence Williams, he said you could email him through www.capture10.com/Contact.html plus his email address he gave out on air.

The John Batchelor Show, Hotel Mars, Friday, 4-27-12 April 28, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show, Hotel Mars, Friday, 4-27-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1762-BWB-2012-04-27.mp3

Guests: John Batchelor, Mary Kissel, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Commercial space, Congress, asteroid mining, space telescopes, entreprenurism.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. The John Batchelor Show broadcast live from Stanford and the Hoover Institution this week and I drove down to do a special Hotel Mars segment Friday evening live in the studio with John and Mary.  Our topics were commercial space and crew, Rep. Frank Wolf and the potentially dangerous changes his subcommittee wants to make with regards to commercial crew contracting, downselecting participants, and funding reductions.  During our discussion, I offered a public invitation to Rep. Wolf to be a guest on The Space Show to explain the purpose behind and the need for the changes that have been reported and that we have been reading about.  If any of you the listeners know Rep. Wolf or have connections in his office, help us get him or one of his top staffers to be a guest on The Space Show.

If you want to email either John Batchelor or Mary Kissel, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.