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Dan Adamo, Sunday, 6-7-15 June 6, 2015

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Dan Adamo, Sunday, 6-7-15

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Guest:  Dan Adamo.  Topics: Mars human spaceflight, robotic exploration, space policy, heavy lift economics, and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dan Adamo to the show for this 2 hour 36 minute comprehensive discussion regarding HSF to Mars, the Second Mars Affordability and Sustainability Workshop report and much more.  During the first segment of our program, Dan started out by telling us the process used to engage him reviewing said report and writing his critique of it which is on The Space Show blog (https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com). Topics discussed in this segment included the use of Low Latency Telepresence (LLT) as compared to High Latency Telepresence (HLT), the absence of human factors and aerospace medical personnel in attendance and said issues missing from the workshop report.  Dan said the key missing information included radiation as well as microgravity concerns.  Dan then questioned the existence of a compelling rational for humans going to Mars.  This became a recurring discussion topic throughout today’s program.  Space settlement came up & so did a possible space race with China.  The subject of a rescue mission came up but there was a detailed rescue mission discussion near the end of the program in the second segment.  Dan was asked about the minimum crew size to operate an LLT program from Deimos or in orbit around Mars.  Several emails were sent in including one by Dr. Jurist addressing high acceleration upon return from Mars.  Dan then suggested the stepping stone approach, starting with cis-lunar space.  Doug sent in questions about heavy lift versus using already large commercial rockets.  Dan and Doug discussed this, then later in the second segment, Doug asked more questions on this topic.  For now they talked about going to Deimos with a Falcon Heavy.  Dan pointed out the need for many more launches and rendezvous missions as compared to one or two SLS type rocket launch.  He questioned if we can’t afford SLS launches, how do we afford even more launches and rendezvous missions.  Marshal emailed us wanting to know about the possibility of lava tube plans .  BJohn asked this guest about a possible Mars cycler & then we moved to the second segment.

In the second segment, I asked Dan what he thought the impact on space policy might be vis a vis the workshop being discussed on this program.  Don’t miss his reply.  Doug asked a question inquiring if for the same cost it would take to send humans to either Deimos or to the Martian surface, one could send many high-latency rovers to multiple locations far from each other to give the rovers many chances to discover evidence for life in different types of places?  This brought us several exchanges comparing LLT with HLT, heavy lift versus smaller rockets and more.  Doug and Dan has several exchanges during this segment, especially when the topic of rescue missions came up.  Ted in Boston asked about the rational for going to Mars, referenced the recent program with Dr. Zubrin, and the payoff or benefits for a human Mars mission.  Dan had much to say about this so don’t miss it.  John from Ft. Worth called to say we were not yet technically ready for Mars and we should use the stepping stone method and focus in cis-lunar development and exploration.  As an example, Dan & John talked about the need to know the actual gravity RX for humans. Dan said we should have a short arm centrifuge on the ISS helping to figure this out but that there was no policy to do that.  We turned to the topic of rescue and I told listeners what I found out about who pays for rescues when I did some quick and dirty research on this a few weeks ago.  The issue of rescue and how it might happen on a Mars mission or even in cis-lunar space came up with many listener emails including several by Doug putting forth various rescue scenarios.  For the most part, since we have no launch on demand, no rockets, pads or hardware sitting around ready to be used at a moments notice and we have to contend with launch windows, it does not seem feasible that a Mars rescue mission could be implemented, possibly not even a lunar rescue mission.  Doug suggested a scenario where multiple ships left for Mars at the same time and then if one got in trouble, the others could rescue the problem ship.  Dan talked about the physics and mass of what would be needed to do that. You decide if it might be feasible for such a rescue scenario to be implemented. Let us know your thoughts on the blog.  If the rescue party is already on Mars, rescue will be unlikely given the state of the art today.  Michael Listner suggested the absence of a realistic rescue plan may hinder the issuing of a launch license.  In his closing comments, Dan focused on the workshop critique saying that the sponsors would have been better served if participation had been opened up and had including human factors and aerospace medicine professionals.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Dan Adamo through me.

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Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Monday, 6-1-15 June 2, 2015

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Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Monday, 6-1-15

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Guest: Dr. Erik Seedhouse. Topics: Mars, radiation, return to the Moon, Virgin Galactic, ISDC, suborbital industry & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Erik Seedhouse back to the show for a variety of timely discussion topics. During the first segment of our 1 hour 37 minute program, Erik started out making comparisons with past polar exploration and going to Mars. He also said that going to Mars anytime in the foreseeable future would be a survival trip. We talked about Erik’s books on Virgin Galactic, Polar Exploration and Mars which will soon be released, and additional books on Dragon, Mars One, Mars via the Moon, and XCOR, all to be released over the coming months. Erik then spoke about his ISDC talk re comparing polar exploration to going to Mars and commented on the speaker following him, Dr. Logan (he was not sure of the first name but we think it was our friend, Dr. Jim Logan). He talked about radiation shielding and water per what Dr. Logan had to say including the need for 10 meters of water shielding to equal the protection here on Earth. Erik had much to say about radiation and shielding which prompted multiple emails from Dr. Doug in S. California seeking clarification and adding to Erik’s comments. I read all of Doug’s radiation themed emails throughout the first and second segment of today’s program. Don’t miss Erik’s conclusions regarding the radiation risks and shielding needs for a Mars mission, how astronauts would live and work on Mars as well as the Moon. Erik next talked about Virgin Galactic and XCOR saying he thought XCOR would be the first to fly commercially. When asked about the biggest passenger risk on a suborbital flight, Erik said it would be the cardio-vascular risks. Erik got questions regarding SpaceX, Elon Musk, and the Mars Colonial Transporter. He again stressed the way to go to Mars was via the Moon and that would be his preferred space policy. He also put forth his Mars simulation study plan. Don’t miss it, I think it’s a good one.

In the second segment, John from Florida called to comment on delays and how long commercial suborbital flight was taking since the success of Spaceship 1. John seemed to compare the lack of progress with suborbital flight to how much progress was made with aviation and in particular jet travel. I took the first pass at responding to him, then Erik offered his comments. What do you think? Let us know on the blog. Erik was then asked about other human factor issues than radiation. Dr. Seedhouse went through a laundry list of health risks and concerns for astronauts in deep space and on long duration spaceflight. He was then asked about the regulatory regime for suborbital space, then he wanted to define space given Virgin Galactic may not flight beyond 50km which is not space. Don’t miss what he had to say about this and the overall health risks for astronauts in deep space. Near the end of the show, Erik addressed space settlement. He said it would be a natural expansion and would happen automatically with returning to the Moon and going to Mars via the Moon. In his concluding comments, he suggested that advocates and space enthusiasts need to adjust expectations and understand the technology involved because its harder and more costly to do things in space, including suborbital space, than originally thought and expected.  

Please post your comments on TSS blog above. You can reach Dr. Seedhouse through me @ drspace@thespaceshow.com.


 

Brent Sherwood, Friday, 5-1-15 May 2, 2015

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Brent Sherwood, Friday, 5-1-15

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Guest:  Brent Sherwood.  Topics:  Human spaceflight, The year of the dwarf planets, Pluto, Ceres, budget math for space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Brent Sherwood for updates to his human spaceflight analysis work previously presented on The Space Show.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 48 minute discussion, Brent started out with a brief discussion on scientific missions and the year 2015 being the Year of the Dwarf Planet.  He talked about the Dawn Mission and Ceres, New Horizons and Pluto, and the oceans on the outer planet moons.  Exoplanets and the habitable zone were also part of this discussion which included an assessment of just how our knowledge has changed regarding the compositing of the solar system.  To redirect the conversation to the purpose of today’s show, human spaceflight (HSF), I asked Brent when we would see HSF beyond LEO (BLEO). I asked about what seemed to be a new space advocacy push for space settlement. Brent then examined why HSF and referred us to his earlier work and the four reasons for HSF which were explore, exploit resources, to experience space, and settlement.  He said settlement was clearly part of the debate, talked about earlier workshops which would avoid the topic and then spoke to the recent Pioneering Space meeting held in Washington, DC where there was a consensus reach for space settlement.  He had good things to say about the meeting and the consensus resolution and talked about the broad space industry representation at the meeting as it was not just NewSpace.  Don’t miss what he had to say about it and space settlement.  Brent was also asked if our National Space Policy Act needed to be amended to reflect space settlement as the official goal of NASA.  Later, he was asked about the stepping stone or incremental approach to HSF development.  He supported this approach, spoke to the challenges for HSF such as life support and more.  As we were closing out the first segment, he offered us valuable insights on this topic so don’t miss what he had to say.

In the second segment, John from Florida called in to ask about grand space visions like an O’Neill orbital colony.  Brent proceeded to discuss grandiose visions in the context of how challenging they were plus their replacement cost.  Here, he used the replacement cost for Manhattan as an example of what he was talking about.  He cited a different type of example, the NASA Ames Space Settlement Contest that had nearly a thousand entries this year from 21 countries with the winner writing a 247 page grand space vision report.  Brent also spoke to the inspiration factor when talking about this contest.  A variety of listener emails were read on air for Brent to respond to, then I asked him if he thought Mars was the Holy Grail for HSF.  He said no so don’t miss why he said that.  He was asked about nuclear propulsion, then we talked about returning to the Moon , cislunar development, and then back to Martian settlement.  He was asked about going to the moons of Mars and he said there were two ways to settle Deimos.  Don’t miss his comments here either.  Near the end of the program, he said the physics of HSF were good but the problem was centered in being grounded in what he called program or budget math.  The budget math for HSF simply does not work, especially for a commercial venture.  He closed on the reality check of being grounded in budget math and the difficulty in going to Mars with humans.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Brent Sherwood through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Eric Berger, Monday, 4-26-15 April 28, 2015

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Eric Berger, Monday, 4-26-15

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Guest:  Eric Berger.  Topics:  Space policy, NASA’s future, commercial space, human spaceflight challenges, & lots more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Eric Berger to the program for a wide ranging discussion on US space policy, NASA, our space future, commercial space and more.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 37 minute show, Eric started the discussion by talking about his early interest in space, his contacting NASA as a child, getting back a great set of photos and other information and being hooked and excited about space ever since.  Some of the early topics in this segment included his surprise that we are not yet beyond low earth orbit with manned spaceflight, then he addressed why it is taking so long to go to Mars , why Mars is the next big step for humans and why going to Mars is so hard.  In his discussion of these topics, he referenced Elon Musk and the SpaceX Mars plans, even Mars One.  I asked Eric for his perspective on the NASA ARM mission which led to one of many discussion of NASA budget constraints and the idea that this or that project is all that can be done within the budget permitted by Congress.  Eric started getting lots of listener emails.  Jenkins wrote in saying that its not the budget that is the problems, the choices we make as a country regarding how we spend money that is the problem.  Eric then referenced the human spaceflight study released last year by the NRC regarding the likelihood that we will be living with tight NASA budgets for the foreseeable future.  Paul in New Mexico asked Eric about the impact of commercial space on policy and NASA.  Eric said it was an important impact so don’t miss his full statement.  Later in the segment, we talked about his seven part “Adrift” series last year and I asked him what his biggest surprise was in researching the articles for the series.  He said it was finding a shift in his view on SLS and that SLS could very well be an important part of our spaceflight future but that it needs to be funded to launch real programs.  He also said that maybe Falcon Heavy could do most of what SLS could do, especially in the Earth-Moon systems but that remains to be seen.  We then talked about the time it took to do various parts of Apollo compared to how much time it takes to do just about anything in space today.  Michael Listner called to talk about needing both NASA & commercial space and some realities involved in policy and space issues.  As the segment was ending, a Portland listener asked if competition with China might develop and force the US to spend more and do more in space.  Don’t miss Eric’s answer.

In the second segment, Eric was asked about space settlement being the goal and the purpose of our National Space Policy through a change in law per March Storm and other groups who are advocating this.  Eric was OK with space settlement but listen to his comments for the full context of his message.  He also said it was hard to figure out what to do with SLS but that some changes might be a full ten years out from today.  We talked about space technology advancements and then Gerald Driggers called in to say we had lots more work to do. For example, we talked about the need to fly a centrifuge in space to determine the gravity RX for humans.  The issue of the lack of space leadership came up from the White House down to the congress.  Many times our guest said it would take a change in leadership to get a change in space leadership but that just changing leadership does not mean the new leader(s) will care about or prioritize space.  Regarding commercial space, he went a bit deeper in this segment.  He said there was lots of commercial space activity but that NASA was still the center of it.  He made the case for the industry needing a broader base than just NASA.  I asked about a Europa mission and another listener asked he could articulate the Senator Ted Cruz view on space policy.  We talked timelines for humans to Mars and for a return to the Moon, he was asked if NASA should be eliminated in favor for a return to something like the old NACA, then Benny in Denver asked about the Texas spaceport facilities being developed for SpaceX and the Blue Origin facility.  As we neared the end of the program, Eric again stressed the difficulty in going to Mars, he looked back at our space history including Gemini 4, and he talked about the Obama policy from 2010 about not going back to the Moon though many in NASA do want to go back to the moon.  Bottom line was Mars around 2050.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. You can reach Eric through me or the Houston Chronicle.

Thomas Marotta, Tuesday, 4-21-15 April 22, 2015

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Thomas Marotta, Tuesday, 4-21-15

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Guest:  Thomas Marotta.  Topic:  March Storm 2015 Citizen Space Agenda.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Tom Marotta to the show to discuss his March Storm experiences and the March Storm agenda.  For more information, visit both the March Storm website, www.marchstorm.com and his personal website, www.thisorbitallife.com.  During the first segment of our 91 minute discussion, Tom started out by introducing us to March Storm, then he talked about his decision to participate this year and the training that followed before meeting with members of congress.  Throughout the segment he was asked about the training by various listeners.  It was one day, it included lots of role playing, and extensive familiarization with the March Storm agenda and issues.  Those participating also did due diligence on the members of congress they were intending to visit.  Efforts were made to match participants with congressional members from their local districts or at least their home state.  I asked Tom several general questions including those pertaining to the gender of the participants, age, and diversity.  Tom then spoke about the Citizens Space Agenda for March Storm which included five areas, the SEDS Act, the Cheap Access to Space act and prize, to fully fund commercial crew, to extend the learning period of the FAA for suborbital and commercial spaceflight without burying the industry in excessive regulation, and to avoid the loss of the ISS should the Russians really remove their module as they have indicated they might do.  The total number of briefings for March Storm were 127, most of which took place with staffers.  Throughout out discussion, Tom pointed out the wide range in interest, awareness, and knowledge of the staffers ranging from not interested and no knowledge to just the opposite.  Tom also highlighted Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and his staff as an example of being very interested in space and the March Storm agenda.  In fact he said that congress would pass he SEDS Act though no timeline was given.  Before the end of the first segment, I asked Tom for a realistic assessment of actual congressional support and action on their agenda. Don’t miss his assessment.

 

In the second segment, we talked more about training, writing to members of congress, I gave a rant on petitioning our government on issues we are passionate about including space, then TR asked if members of congress think about detailed issues like artificial gravity.  Tom said they did not lobby on specific issues such as stated in the TR email, instead they stuck to their agenda and were very specific in not asking for money or money driven legislation.  Human spaceflight safety came up in an email listener question as did the SpaceShip2 accident.  Space Settlement was a major topic in a call by John from Ft. Worth.  As the show was ending, we talked about a congressional joint resolution rather than a law and Tom called for those in California, Texas, Maryland and Florida to contact their members of congress on the March Storm agenda.

 

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Tom through his site or me.

 

Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15 April 15, 2015

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15

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Guest: Rand Simberg. Topics: SpaceX, ULA, Mars, space policy, Moon N=Mars debate and much more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rand Simberg to the program. During the first segment of our 100 minute program, Rand discussed the Falcon 9 launch and barge landing attempt of the first stage. Before he finished his discussion, Dr. Lurio called in and joined in on the speculation as to why the landing was unsuccessful. Both Rand and Charles thought it might be wind but as you will hear, that was just their opinion. Next, the two of them turned to the ULA announcement about the Vulcan rocket and their plans to recover in air from a supersonic parachute using a helicopter. They want to recover the rocket’s main engine. This discussion between Charles and Rand dominated the first segment of the program. Near the end of the first segment, I asked Rand about the ARM and it being redirected to Mars and Phobos. Rand had much to say about this so don’t miss it.

In the second segment, in response to earlier comments made by Rand in the first segment, Sally sent in a note asking if the next NASA administrator might make a difference and actually matter. Again, don’t miss what Rand had to say about this plus bipartisanship and the work of Congressman Dana Rohrabacher who wants to change the our space policy to one of having the main purpose to settle space. Rand also said he would personally like to “ban” the phrase space exploration. Listen to his explanation on this point. Rand was asked about the Moon-Mars debate which he thought was absurd given that the issue was not about destinations but getting the needed infrastructure in space so one can go anywhere. Without the infrastructure, even a gravity lab, talking destinations makes no sense. Due to a few listener questions, Rand also had some choice comments for Mars One. Another listener asked Rand what parts of the commercial space industry impressed him the most. This led to a discussion about suborbital flight and markets. Becky asked him about his Transterrestrial blog (http://www.transterrestrial.com) and the non-space portion of it, I asked him about military space and then Tim called to talk about affordable small sat launches and to inquire if we were embarking on a space race over low cost launch opportunities that may be emerging. Rand also talked about the upcoming Space Access Society meeting and the talk he plans to give at the event. Rhonda in Petaluma asked Rand what caused his transition from traditional aerospace to NewSpace. Don’t miss this, it is really interesting.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Rand through his blog or me.

Chris Carberry, Tuesday, 4-7-15 April 8, 2015

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Chris Carberry, Tuesday, 4-7-15

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Guest: Chris Carberry. Topics: Explore Mars Humans2Mars Summit, Mars and moon discussion, affordable space policy, NASA budgets, private sector & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Chris Carberry back to the show to discuss Explore Mars events & activities. During the first segment of our 96 minute program, Chris started out by telling us about the upcoming Humans2Mars Summit planned for May 5-7 in Washington, DC. All the conference and registration information is available at http://h2m.exploremars.org. This discussion led me to asking him why we should go to Mars and why now. As part of this discussion, I challenged Chris on using tax payer money for a Mars mission rather than letting the private sector do it. In fact, he did get a listener question about this, suggesting that either Mars One or SpaceX take us to Mars, not the government. Eric sent in a note asking who we thought might be the next NASA administrator or at least who the candidates might be. He also wanted Chris to advise how best to influence officials, policy makers, members of congress, etc. to go to Mars. Chris offered several suggestions to this part of Eric’s two question email. Chris responded to emails about the Affordable Mars Workshop architecture for Mars that we have been hearing about over the past week, plus the recent NSS-SFF meeting where settlement seemed to be the agreed upon goal. Don’t miss what Chris had to say about these events as he attended both. Doug called from S. California to make the case for going back to the Moon on its own, not just as a stepping stone to Mars. Doug suggested that the lunar return folks team with the Mars folks to find the best way to do both missions as it should not be one or the other. He also wanted to make sure going back to the Moon did not delay going to Mars and that going to Mars did not delay or destroy the opportunities for returning to the Moon. Chris and Doug had a vibrant exchange on this subject, especially given this era of tight budgets & constraints.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called to express a concern that going to Mars might end up like Apollo and after a few Martian visits, we quit that too. Chris explained why he did not think that would happen. Later, Dr. Lurio called and said that “these guys are ALL living in fantasy land, one version or another.” His call was to pick up from the email he sent us and to elaborate on his position which was hotly debated and challenged by Chris. One thing Chris and Charles agreed upon was that there would be no repeat of a so-called “Kennedy Moment.” As the show was ending, Chris went over the Humans2Mars Summit again and we talked about the need to start working on Mars plans rather than always just talking and “planning” about them.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Chris through the Explore Mars website or me.

CAP Saucier, Monday, 4-6-15 April 7, 2015

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CAP Saucier, Monday, 4-6-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2447-BWB-2015-04-06.mp3

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Gust:  CAP Saucier.  Topics:  CAP’s new book, “Explore The Cosmos Like Neil deGrasse Tyson plus biographical information about Dr. Tyson, science education.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed CAP Saucier to the program to discuss her new book, “Explore The Cosmos Like Neil deGrasse Tyson.”  For more information about our guest and her work, visit her website, www.capsaucier.com.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 27 minute program, CAP introduced us to her new book and how she met Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson plus her interviews with him for this book.  Note that this book was a five year project in the making.  I asked her for a few things that she thought stood out with Neil.  One was that he does not have role models. Instead, he has mentors.  We spent some time discussing this and the differences between the two.  Regarding his mentors, Sir Isaac Newton and his parents stood out and were a the top of the list.  During our discussion we went back and forth in talking about Dr. Tyson and the science message in her book which was targeted toward middle school students.  Listeners asked our questions about the level of our scientific knowledge and if Dr. Tyson commented on that.  He did comment and this proved to be a continuing topic throughout our program.  We talked about favorite parts of the book, Neil’s favorite planet and CAP being able to see Andromeda through a telescope at Kitt Peake. This is an interesting story, don’t miss it.  In response to another listener email, CAP said that Neil’s priority was defending against incoming asteroids.

 

In the second segment, we started off talking about science education in the U.S. Our guest said we ranked in the lower half in science education among educated countries. This led us to discussing STEM and the newer form, STEAM.  The “A” is added for Art.  We both talked about the importance of art in addition to the traditional STEM topic.  We talked about where we come from in the cosmos, supernovas, and science fact, all in the context of science fact.  Note the email question from Adrian on this subject.  I asked CAP if we needed to start with better science education in grade school but she said middle school was a good age, around 4th and 5th grade.  CAP introduced the topic of evolution and said it needs to be brought back to science education.  CAP the spoke to her literary style which has been to tell a story through a biography.  In both segments, the subject of the Next Generation Science Standards came up.  Our guest had much to say about them.  Check ou the website,  www.nextgenscience.org/next-generation-science-standards.  Toward the end of the show, listener Pauline in Fargo wanted to know if Neil wanted to go to space.  Don’t miss her answer.

 

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Henry Vanderbilt, Tuesday, 3-17-15 March 18, 2015

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Henry Vanderbilt, Tuesday, 3-17-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2435-BWB-2015-03-17.mp3

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Guest: Henry Vanderbilt. Topics: The Space Access Society Conference, April 30-May 2, Phoenix, Arizona. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Henry Vanderbilt back to the program to tell us about the upcoming Space Access Society Conference to be held in Phoenix, Arizona from April 30-May 2, 2015. For information, speakers, and program agenda, see www.space-access.org. During the first segment of our 91 minute program, Henry talked about the logistics of the conference to be held at the Radisson Hotel North in Phoenix. You can register for the conference and the hotel online. Henry then highlighted many of the sessions and speakers for this year’s event. See the Space Access website, www.space-access.org. I asked him what talk or event excited him the most and he said they all excited him. He then focused on a few main speakers including Dave Masten, Jeff Greason and the COTS 2 Return to the Moon track that Dr. Doug Plata will be chairing. Details for this special track within the overall Space Access track are on the Space Access Society website. Henry highlighted the special track with Doug and his track participants, then he focused on the Town Hall Program designed to solicit new and fresh ideas for cheap access to space and space development. Before the segment ended, Charles Pooley called and we talked about New Horizons and fast, high energy deep space issues and advanced propulsion as a result of Marshal’s phone call.

In the second segment, Doug called to talk about his track but also about the superb networking opportunities at Space Access. Doug, picking up on a first segment listener email question, said that the conference was not a space settlement conference but that with affordable space access, space settlement gets much closer to reality. Henry then spoke about Henry Spencer returning to talk and along with Doug, mentioned reusability and lunar landers. Henry will talk about rocket safety, reusability and more. Advanced propulsion technology was discussed when Ft. Worth John called us, then Henry talked about EML2, more conference speakers plus the need for fuel depots. At the end, he said that the Space Access Conference supports their political activism which Henry is really good at doing during the year on very important and key issues. He cited an example from last year. Henry also said there was still room for more speakers but you need to quickly contact him to see if your topic can work for the event. You can email Henry at space.access@space-access.org.

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Dr. John Logsdon, Monday, 3-16-15 March 17, 2015

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Dr. John Logsdon, Monday, 3-16-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2434-BWB-2015-03-16.mp3

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Guest: Dr. John Logsdon. Topics: Professor Logsdon’s new book, “After Apollo? Richard Nixon and the American Space Program,” plus our guest responded to many space policy questions then and now. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back to the show Dr. John Logsdon to discuss his new book, “After Apollo? Richard Nixon and the American Space Program.” During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Dr. Logsdon provided us with the multi-year history behind his researching and writing this book. We talked about the Space Shuttle but also the gap within NASA and parts of the space community including the advocate community between having great expectations but insufficient resources to support the great expectations. We talked about the likelihood of significant NASA budget increases in coming years and while possible, our guest said it was unlikely. President Nixon wanted space to be considered routine and NASA to compete for funding with other parts of the discretionary budget. What President Nixon set in motion is continuing through this day. Dr. Logsdon said policy normally comes from the White House but recently policy for SLS came from the Senate because they did not like what President Obama was doing. We talked about the long range impact of the Nixon space policy even through today and at one point Dr. Logsdon suggested that maybe Nixon got it right regarding American public sentiment about space. Our guest received questions about planetary science and its accomplishments and other listeners inquired about public/private partnerships. Still, our guest said that only governments really have the resources to carry out the type of space investment needed for exploration. Listeners asked about other forces of the time including the Cold War and space policy champions in leadership positions such as Tom Paine who was the NASA Administrator. Dr. Logsdon was asked how things might have been different had Hubert Humphry been elected president. Mars was also discussed, then Dr. Logsdon talked about the space shuttle history. In response to several questions, he shared his thoughts and experiences from his time spent serving on the CAIB. Another topic in this segment dealt with space advocacy. Our guest said we need advocacy to keep the dream alive until leadership makes it happen. He said talk about settlement and pioneering were mainly just words. Pioneering needed to answer two questions which he addressed before the break.

In segment two, we talked about the ISS and Shuttle having consumed the HSF budget and now the ISS does that with about $3 billion per year. Using the shuttle for national defense and security during the Nixon years was also a discussion topic as Nixon liked national security issues. Dr. Logsdon had much to say about the shuttle’s use by the military and for national security. You might be surprised by what you hear. As for human spaceflight, Dr. Logsdon referred her to the NRC Pathways Study which we have discussed many times on The Space Show. More questions came in regarding space advocacy which he said pushes the boundaries of realism and needs to be balanced between sober reality and pure fantasy. Tony emailed us to ask about SLS/Orion, private space over NASA, and Elon Musk and his Mars settlement plans. A question came in about being motivated by the Chinese space program. For closing remarks, Dr. Logsdon addressed the Nixon space policy and program legacy which still influences us today.

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