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Tom Olson, Tuesday, 12-29-15 December 30, 2015

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Tom Olson, Tuesday, 12-29-15

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Guest: Thomas (Tom) Olson. Topics: 2015 in review, 2016 space events, best and worst space events of the year. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Tom Olson for his traditional annual year in review show, this time for the year 2015. During the first segment of our 1 hour 45 minute discussion, I asked Tom to start off with the worst space event for 2015 rather than the best. Interestingly, he said it was the fact that another year has gone by without our flying people to space, either orbital or suborbital. This opened up a discussion about disappointments in the suborbital industry other than for Blue Origin which got the best grade along with SpaceX for their landing their rocket back on the pad after making it to space. As for the best, Tom mentioned several “bests” during the show but started out with the new commercial space legislation recently signed into law, specifically the part about funding commercial crew and U.S citizens being able to extract resources from asteroids. He spoke about the launch industry in general saying this was a near record year with 87 total launches. He talked about the ISS extension to 2024, commercial projects on the station and he said it would be better to design a commercial station properly than to try and commercialize the ISS. Tom then mentioned several entrepreneurial companies worth noting and watching including Planet Labs, Spire, Made In Space, also Sierra Nevada with the continuation of its Dream Chaser space vehicle. Listener Robert asked if his views on space solar power had changed in 2015. Tom said no but listen to his explanation. I asked Tom for the top space leaders of 2015. He had trouble naming a few other than Bezos and Musk. He said there were no heroes. All of the space men and women were heroes. Jeff from Denver asked Tom if he changed his mind on SLS/Orion from previous years. Again, Tom said no but listen to his full explanation. Another listener asked him if he thought 2016 presidential politics would influence space policy. Again, he answered with a no. Ft. Worth John called to talk about artificial gravity experiments that were needed, Falcon 9 landing the 1st stage successfully, plus he asked when the Falcon Heavy would fly.

In the second segment, Luis from Venezuela asked Tom about small scale laser beaming of power from powersats to landers and assets on the lunar surface. Next up was Dr. Lurio who put in a plug for Made In Space for a 2015 outstanding company award, then he talked about XCOR, responding to some of the recent management changes in the company plus the comments Tom was making about the company. Tom further addressed Made In Space and mentioned a 3D bioprinter. Here is the link to the story he mentioned about the bioprinter, http://medcitynews.com/2015/08/watch-out-organovo-biobots-launching-new-line-of-low-cost-3d-bioprinters. Tom spoke more about the Bigelow ISS BEAM Module experiment for later in 2016, then talked about the success of deep space exploration, JPL, and more. He mentioned running water on Mars, Cassini and Titan photos, New Horizons and Pluto and the Dawn Mission to Ceres. He also gave credit to Rosetta and the Comet 67P mission , then commented on the disappointment about the delay in the Insight Mars mission. Tom mentioned Putin’s reorganization of the Russian space industry to just Roscosmos, then he said the weirdest event of the year was the exoplanet discovery of the mysterious dimming in light value with some in the media reporting the possible discovery of alien ruins (see http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/has-kepler-discovered-an-alien-megastructure-151014.htm). Near the end of the program, Tom talked at length about important changes in the New Space Business Plan Competition. A listener then asked him about space films for 2015 and Tom commented on The Martian and television science fiction programming. He also mentioned the twins study on the ISS was nearing its end and Scott Kelly had set a record for the most time spent in space by an American astronaut. Before the show ended we talked about one way trips to Mars, Mars One and then Tom predicted that Mr. Musk will get to Mars before NASA. He concluded by saying that 2015 was an inspiring year for space on all fronts.

Please post your comments/Questions on TSS blog above. Happy New Year to all of you. Keep it safe, have a great celebration and I wish you all a terrific 2016! Thank you again for your Space Show support.

 

Space Show Annual Year In Review Program, Sunday, 12-27-15 December 28, 2015

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Space Show Annual Year In Review Program, Sunday, 12-27-15

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Guest: Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston; Topics:  Annual review for space for year 2015.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our annual Open Lines Annual Year In Review program for 2015.  As it turned out, we did the 2 hour 10 minute program without a break as calls kept coming and we kept going with the program.  Before taking listener calls, I updated everyone on the new website’s development.  We started with listener calls with Jerry’s call about seeing the Falcon 9 land the first stage from his porch in Merit Island, not far from the SpaceX launch and landing sites.  He described both the launch and the landing for us from his perspective of being there, plus he talked about potential and future SpaceX rockets and launches.  As it turned out, the overwhelming winner for the best 2015 space event was the SpaceX landing of its first stage back at the Cape.  While there was lots of discussion about the future economics of the project, reusable economics and more, including the specifics of this flight that made it perfect for the landing demonstration, there was overwhelming support for SpaceX and reusability.  Several listeners even called to talk about reusability with the Falcon Heavy, they described what they thought was the customer profile for reusability, we talked about risk vs. reward ratios, payload mass and possible pricing strategies for the “used” rocket launch and what the competition may do as a result of this excellent SpaceX success.  As for planetary missions for 2015, hands down for New Horizons and Dawn going to Ceres.  We had a few votes for Comet 67P and some mention of Kepler.  Doug, during his call, mentioned that for 2016 there might not be much happening in planetary science but he did refer to the JUNO mission which makes it to Jupiter on July 4, 2016.  John Hunt called and in addition to talking about reusability and SpaceX, we talked about the new movie Star Wars.  That too was a popular topic for the show. John and I pointed out lots of similarities to the earlier Star Wars and what seemed to be technology that had not advanced much since the initial Star Wars movie.  Another listener emailed in with the technological advances in the fighters and other systems in the new Star Wars movie so there was tech advancement though I don’t think it was easy to spot.  However, we did talk in general about reaching technology plateaus and a few callers brought that up. I cited a current article from an Australian financial publication suggesting Apple Computer had “run out of ideas” which supported what some of the listeners were asking about re space technology.  Michael Listner called to talk about the RD180 engine and the Defense Authorization Act.  We also talked about ULA CEO Tory Bruno being on The Space Show for Tuesday, Jan. 5th.  John in Fremont called about New Horizons, Dawn and 67P, then he suggested he wanted to see SpaceX go to airline type flight service & operations as soon as possible.  He was challenged on that statement.  He also suggested a return to the show by Dr. Bruce Damer regarding his Shepherd Project.  Listener Rick suggested being on the lookout for 2016 for advances in small compact fusion technology with increased involvement from commercial investors. In addition to Focus Fusion (Lawrenceville Plasma Physics) and Polywell (Energy Matter Conversion Corp., he mentioned Lockheed Martin Skunk Works with their device.  Also,  Lightsail-B is one of the payloads expected on a Falcon 9 flight in 2016 and Phase Four’s CubeSat Ambipolar Thruster (CAT) plasma engine got $1 million from DARPA in November. Expected lots of development for 2016.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach any of the callers or emailers through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

 

The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, 12-23-15 December 24, 2015

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, 12-23-15

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: 2015 year in review. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I did a quick 2015 year in review. We both agreed that the latest Falcon 9 launch by SpaceX was a potential game changer with the success of their flyback booster landing upright at the Cape. We also talked about the rest of this particular SpaceX mission which was just as impressive. For planetary science, we selected several mission for our 2015 best including New Horizons, Dawn, Akatsuki which started orbiting Venus after being lost for five years, and the Japanese Hayabusa 1 and 2 missions,. We commented that we were disappointed in the suborbital industry progress other than for Blue Origin and their recent successful test flight with their rocket return to the pad. John liked the European Rosetta Mission for Comet 67P and specifically the Philae lander. We summarized our short discussion by wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, plus we look forward to 2016 being another exciting year for space.

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Ken Murphy, Tuesday, 12-22-15 December 23, 2015

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Ken Murphy, Tuesday, 12-22-15

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Guest: Ken Murphy. Topics: Cislunar development, returning to the Moon, Mars, Moon Day, NASA and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Ken Murphy to discuss space current events, his coming articles and stories, and reasons for returning to the Moon and developing cislunar space.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 2 minute discussion, Ken started out by telling us about his upcoming Jan. 4, 2016 Space Review article regarding the July 2016 Moon Day celebration in Dallas.  He provided the logistical details for the event throughout our discussion, plus he described the event, the Lunar Sample Bags, the educational outreach, and their ham radio connection to the ISS via the ARISS Program.  This discussion was followed by our talking about the SpaceX Falcon 9 launch and first stage recovery.  Ken then talked about making significant changes in NASA to advance space development, especially getting younger employees at NASA with an average age in the 30’s by getting rid of the older NASA employees.  This comment caused John from Ft. Worth to call to remind Ken of anti-age discrimination laws, wondering just how Ken would get rid of the older people at NASA.  We shifted our discussion to cislunar development and international lunar development efforts.  We talked about the need for public private programs to do cislunar and lunar development.  Betty emailed Ken to ask him if he thought all the lunar advocacy made a difference and helped the cause of our getting back to the Moon.  Ken’s response to Betty might surprise you so don’t miss it.  Before the break, we talked about education and the public’s space educational level.  You definitely want to hear what Ken said about the average person’s space knowledge and teachers in our K-high school grades.  Tell us what you think about Ken’s education and teacher analysis and comments by posting your thoughts on TSS blog.

In the second segment, we talked about going back to the Moon, then Ken brought up lunar dust issues, then in response to the typical Moon or Mars question, he said the Moon was our sand box made to order to train us for solar system exploration and even settlement.  He also said while he is interested in Mars and space settlement, his near term focus was on cislunar development and returning to the Moon.  During our program, he often referred to talks he has given to the general public so he talked at length about both space and STEM being a hook for getting young people interested in space and the STEM topics.  He again mentioned that on Moon Day, they would be talking with the ISS crew via the ARISS program,.  Preston from Chicago asked him if he had seen The Martian or the latest Star Wars movie.  His response and what he said about the movies will have to be a surprise for you.  Near the end of the program, Jerry asked him about his support for advanced propulsion and Jack asked him what he thought of Elon’s plans to go to Mars in 15 years or so.  Ken was also asked for his opinion on space solar power and about using water ice on the Moon for fuel.  Ken said it would be better to work the Moon from L1.  In conclusion, he offered us a good takeaway message and a good set of closing statements you will want to hear.

Make sure you post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Ken through The Space Show or The Moon Society (www.moonsociety.org).  Finally, Merry Christmas everyone.  The Space Show team and I wish you a very good holiday season.

 

Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-15-15 December 16, 2015

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-15-15

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Guest: Robert (Bob) Zimmerman; Topics: Apollo 8, heavy lift, Moon-Mars, commercial space, and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Bob back to the show for the last time in 2015.  During the first segment of the 2 hour program, Bob started our by remembering Apollo 8’s flight around the Moon on Christmas Eve, plus he talked about his new edition Kindle version of his classic book, “Genesis: The Story of Apollo 8.”  Bob spent some time retelling the full Apollo 8 story, how it came about that Frank Borman and crew decided to read the first twelve chapters of Genesis for the huge broadcast that was heard around the world, then he contrasted the astronaut’s freedom to choose their own words to what he expected would prevail today.  What do you think?  Post your comments about this on the blog.  After the Apollo 8 story, we discussed the return to flight by both Orbital ATK and SpaceX.  Bob shared his perspectives about this plus his rational for NASA wanting to work with possibly four companies for commercial spaceflight for cargo to the ISS.  Caller Richard Easton was next to talk about Apollo 8, then he wanted to know Bob’s thoughts on the need to first go to the Moon before going to Mars. This turned into a mini-discussion that included reference to the NASA Roadmap to Mars, the Elon Musk plans to go to Mars and why, along with giant rockets, with Bob commenting on why giant rockets would be inefficient and not necessary. His call consumed the balance of the first segment.

 

In the second segment,  I read an email from Doug asking about ISS plans and the possible impact on a Bigelow space station.  Jody emailed in a question asking about the space positions for the presidential candidates for both parties.  Bob limited his comments to Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Trump, Sen. Rubio, and Senator Cruz.  In the process of talking about their positions, he went after big government programs such as SLS and Orion.  Jack sent in a question asking about recent XCOR changes in management.  Bob had much to say about this, though it was more about the company in general and the industry.  He did take the opportunity to applaud Blue Origin.  Doug called the show and his call consumed almost all of the balance of the second segment.  Bob and Doug had a grand old time planning missions without heavy lift rockets using multiple launches of the F9, ion & solar propulsion.  I refrained from entering their discussion and let the two continue until we needed to move on near the end of the show.  Bob was again critical of SpaceX wanting to build giant heavy rockets for going to Mars saying FH was large enough and efficient.  The assumptions the two made were in my opinion very generous but at least we know where Doug and Bob stand on these issues.  If you have comments about their discussion make sure you post your comments on the blog.

 

Please do post all your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Mr. Zimmerman through his website, www.behindtheblack.com.  You can reach any caller or emailer through me.

Michael Listner, Sunday, 12-13-15 December 13, 2015

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Michael Listner, Sunday, 12-13-15

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Guest: Michael Listner.  Topics: Commercial Space Law, asteroid bill, treaties, 2015 space legal issues and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Michael Listner back to the show for the last time in 2015.  During the first segment of our two hour discussion, Michael started the 2015 annual space law review by jumping right in to discussing the new Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act recently signed into law by President Obama.  In this segment, he hit on key issues including legal jurisdiction on issues would now be federal law issues, the solidification behind SLS making it harder to cancel the rocket project, and the controversial “property rights” section in the asteroid part of the legislation.  There were many questions for Michael regarding the significance and meaning of issues now falling under federal law.  During this discussion, Michael used legal definitions and terminology and we discussed hypothetical situations to try to understand the impact of federal over state law on issues likely to make it to court.  Michael again talked about the asteroid mining part of the legislation (he did so as well on his last show a few weeks ago) which he believes contradicts the Outer Space Treaty.  Michael carefully went through the legal issues including the incorrect comparison of the Outer Space Treaty to the oceans and the Law of the Sea Treaty rather than a more appropriate comparison to legal regimes regarding Antarctica.  Michael posted a good article on this discussion his blog, Space Thoughts, which you can read at https://spacethoughtsblog.wordpress.com/2015/12/11/section-51303-the-oceans-are-not-the-equal-to-outer-space/.  Later in the segment, listeners asked about domestic vs. international legal enforcement of the asteroid mining issues per the legislation, plus many questions came in about The Outer Space Treaty and even The Moon Treaty came up for discussion.

 

In the second segment, Michael started out by saying that SLS got a big boost which was supportive of commercial space policy.  Jack asked about commercial crew in the legislation, but our focus moved to the RD180 engine because that is a big deal right now.  Michael said it was akin to open warfare between Senator McCain and ULA.  Michael offered us a detailed explanation of the RD180 issue and how it can impact ULA, SpaceX, and actually impact the nation.  Another topic was the return to flight using the Atlas 5 and the RD181 engine for the Cygnus by Orbital ATK.  BJohn and later Freemont John inquired about nuclear propulsion and some of the things discussed in the recent program with Dr. Dewar. Another topic discussed was planetary protection which he said gets its authority from Article 9 of The Outer Space Treaty.  Before the program ended, Michael gave us a status report on The Code of Conduct, the suborbital industry, and the Moon Treaty.

 

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Michael through me or his blog.

 

John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-25-15 November 26, 2015

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-25-15

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Charles Lurio, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Suborbital industry and Blue Origin. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed back Dr. Charles Lurio to discuss the suborbital space industry and in particular, Blue Origin. Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin is building the New Shepard suborbital spacecraft which recently flew to 100 km, returned to the pad & landed vertically demonstrating reusability for the first time for a launch vehicle returning from space. Dr. Lurio, John and I discussed the flight, its significance and then John wanted to compare this success to the efforts of SpaceX to land the first stage of the Falcon 9 on a barge in the Atlantic. Both Dr. Lurio and I explained the differences and the challenges faced by SpaceX as they were very different than the challenges faced by Blue Origin. John wanted to know if NASA or other national space agencies were working on reusability. Charles said no with specific comments about NASA. We also talked about the animated part of the Blue Origin video which can be seen at www.blueorigin.com. I also asked Charles about the vehicle plan to go to and from space with passengers on an automatic basis without a pilot or crew.

 

You can email Mr. Batchelor or D r. Charles Lurio through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. You can get more information about Dr. Lurio at www.thelurioreport.com.

 

 

Doug Messier, Tuesday, 11-17-15 November 18, 2015

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Doug Messier, Tuesday, 11-17-15

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Guest:  Doug Messier.  Topics:  The Virgin Galactic current multi-part series on www.parabolicarc.com and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Doug Messier back to the program.  During the first segment of our nearly two hour show, Doug started off by telling about his current multi-part series running this past week on www.paraboloicarc.com regarding Virgin Galactic and SpaceShipTwo.  Given the accident happened slightly more than a year ago, Doug put together a comprehensive series of articles on the accident, the pilots, the NTSB report, Virgin Galactic, Scaled and more.  This is a multi-part series you will want to read.  The majority of the first segment’s discussion was based on the articles with questions from listeners and myself about various aspects of the company, the accident, the people involved, the mission control room, and the NTSB report plus supporting documents which Doug studied for his articles.  Listener Alec sent in an email before the show wanting to know if SS2 has been more closely modeled after SS! if the company would have been flying by now.  Doug had much to say in response to this question dealing with the expansion to SS2 which was 3 times larger than SS1 and more.  When asked about return to flight, Doug suggested the possibility of Feb. 2016 but that was not definite.  This was in response to Josh asking for a Virgin time line.  Doug also got questions about Virgin and Spaceport America, then he was asked if noticed differences in Virgin’s presentation both pre and post the accident.  The subject of safety and test flight programs came up for Virgin, XCOR and all the companies.  We talked about safety and test flight programs in general with Doug, myself and some listeners,  agreeing that the test programs were not extensive enough or sufficiently comprehensive.  Don’t miss this discussion which included comments about the flight test envelope challenges, the X-15 as a possible model, and comments made by Neil Armstrong at the recent Suborbital Conference held a few years ago in Palo Alto, CA.

In the second segment, I started out by asking Doug about the new Commercial Space Law agreed upon by the House and Senate, specifically the part about asteroid mining and quasi-property rights.  I pointed out the feedback I was getting about this section being in opposition to the Outer Space Treat and many were not happy with it, nor did we know if it would have any legal standing outside the U.S.  Tim called in to support the asteroid mining provisions in the law.  John from Ft. Worth called in to talk about the DARPA XS-1 program and Masten Space Sciences. Burton in Canada asked about SLS, then Dr. Lurio called in to talk safety and many other topics.  Before the show ended, Tim called back to ask about the XCOR piston pump progress.

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Wayne Eleazer, Monday, 11-16-15 November 17, 2015

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Wayne Eleazer, Monday, 11-16-15

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Guest:  Wayne Eleazer. Topics:  Launch failures and why they happen.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Wayne Eleazer to the show to discuss the history and why of rocket launch failures per the many articles he has written over the years on these subjects for The Space Review.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 58 minute discussion, Wayne started us off responding to my question about the most dramatic launch failure he has seen or studied.  He talked about a spectacular Titan failure so don’t miss his story.  Michael Listner called and talked about many topics including Air Force mishap reports.  What Wayne had to say about the mishap reports and the Air Force candor regarding launch failures was very interesting and informative.  Wayne introduced us to the Oops Factor regarding failures, a concept he used in an earlier Space Review article.  This refers to one thing causing the launch failure but the people down the line with oversight responsibility all miss it or “oops!”  SpaceX and the Falcon 9 problems came up many times but here Wayne talked about the needed culture in a company to deal with launch failures, learn from them, and work to keep them from happening again.  He thought SpaceX was doing all of that.  He also talked about Orbital ATK and the Antares and their culture, then I asked him about the SpaceShip2 failure/accident.  Near the end of the first segment, Jay asked Wayne if military rockets had similar launch failure problems.  Wayne’s response about the military rocket motor, its reliability, testing, and costs was most illuminating.  As we learned, the military rocket motor stands alone in quality.

In the second segment, Wayne was asked if he could spot trends that cause launch failures over and over again.  He said no but listen to his complete answer.  He called this the “Predictables” and is completing a new Space Review article on this subject.  He listed several examples including his use of the Challenger loss as well as Delta and Atlas failures.  I asked him if on the military side, there were consequences for military personnel with responsibility and oversight duties, maybe a demotion, court martial, anything.  You might be surprised by his answer to this question.  We talked more about the Falcon 9 and EELVs in this segment, plus the old Thor and the Atlas.  Barry asked Wayne about Russian launch failures.  Wayne talked about the Russian culture and problems.  Near the end, he said EELV reliability was improving.  He made some additional Atlas and Falcon 9 comparisons, then I asked if there was an expected failure rate for these rockets.  Wayne suggested if a company survives ten launches, their odds for survival improve greatly.  Doug asked about fairing issues. Wayne talked about the ways that a fairing can open up and we talked about the recent Taurus failures due to fairing problems.  Doug followed up his question asking about the reliability for the Falcon Heavy.  Wayne had much to say about reliability and strap on rockets &the odds of a failure by strapping rockets together.  You might be surprised by what he said.  I asked him about modular all purpose, all mission rockets, complexity vs. simplicity, small start-up launch operations and the SLS.  In concluding the show, he talked about the value in understanding launch failures.  He talked about education on launch failures and why it has been so hard for people to be open minded and learn from rocket failures.  At one point, he mentioned an older German rocket company building an ugly pipe rocket, OTRAG.

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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15 November 11, 2015

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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15

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Guest: Dr. Charles Lurio.  Topic:  Commercial Space law updates, NASA, SLS, HSF, space leadership plus more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Dr. Charles Lurio for this comprehensive commercial space update plus Dr. Lurio took a hard look at human spaceflight.  During the first segment of our nearly 1 hour 55 minute show, Charles started with the news that broke just before airtime that congress had approved the new commercial space legislation.  The House and Senate compromised on the learning period extending it to 2023.  Charles hit on some highlights of the bill but said he had not yet had time to read the final version since the news literally broke minutes before air time.  Other first segment discussion topics included the return to flight for Falcon 9 and the Cygnus which will launch on an Atlas 5 until Antares has a return to flight sometime early next year.  Charles talked about the new Russian rocket motor for Antares and its relationship to other major Russian rocket motors.  Next, we talked about the NASA delay for the commercial cargo awards and their letter to Boeing saying that the cargo version of the CST 100 was no longer under consideration.  Charles speculated that the delay might have been taken to allow for return to flight for the Falcon and for the Cygnus on the Atlas 5.  Paul in NY emailed Charles asking for him to tell us his favorite commercial space company and his favorite NewSpace company.  Charles said he loved SpaceX and commented on them moving the ground in the launch industry.  He said he has always been a fan of XCOR and gave us some update at to the XCOR progress and challenges, especially in their wing production.  Charles also said that the asteroid mining companies, particularly Deep Space Industries, were starting to attract foreign capital as he mentioned investment interest from the Czech Republic.  I asked Charles if he was satisfied with the way the industry was developing so far.  He said he was amazed with it and what has happened so far, but made the point that commercial space was far from being on easy street.  He then explained his comments listing examples to support his comments.  I asked him about the NASA Roadmap to Mars and he repeated back to me, you meant the “Jokemap” to Mars?  That should provide you with a clue as to the rest of the discussion on this topic.  Before the break, Don called from New Hampshire to talk about radiation, Brookhaven, and human spaceflight.  Charles and Don talked about shielding, the lack of real quality experiments plus finding out answers to other needed questions for HSF BELO including life support systems, microgravity, plus lots more. Charles concluded that NASA was not serious about space, something many guests have said over and over again in recent years.  Don said the system management was shortsighted.  Charles said what we needed was a new NACA, not so much NASA.  This remained a theme for Charles for the rest of the show.  Before ending the call, Don talked about Japanese radiation experiments and equipment that NASA won’t use, citing NE213 and a newer version, EJ301.

 

In the second segment, I asked Charles what would be a reasonable set of expectations for our commercial and HSF program given the state of comprehensive matters facing the US and the world at this time in 2015.  Charles had some very interesting things to say in response to this question which actually commanded most of the second segment.  A subtopic in this discussion was the subject of technology and technology development.  Again, don’t miss what he said about technology.  I asked Charles about the development of cislunar space and the Moon.  He would welcome both but listen to all of what he had to say about this because he repeated himself that we were not doing anything.  Doug in S. California called in with multiple questions for Charles about what was needed for a flyby to Mars and more.  It appeared to me that Doug was not getting what Charles was talking about though Charles kept saying that Doug was not asking the right set of questions.  In summary, I think Doug was suggesting technology advancements lowering costs for example, would compel policy makers and the public to support and create the space policy we seem to yearn for when this subject comes up on the show. Charles kept repeating that the technology to be used was not the issue. Instead, the issue was political in that there was no will to do things, no leadership.  Since this is something I have ranted about on many Space Show programs, I supported Charles on the leadership issue and I do believe that having the will to do something serious in space and having the leadership to actually get policies in place that can be implemented are much bigger problems than the technology or even the financial side of things.  Once the policy and will are there, implementation is next and that is when technology will be looked at and decided upon.  See what you think about this discussion with Dr. Doug.  Later, on the same subject, Charles said it was very difficult to change society attitudes.  Doug Messier emailed in comments that it was easy to rant on NASA but pointed out the slow going of many commercial space projects from suborbital development to rocket development.  Doug suggested that had progress been faster, leadership and some of the issues Charles was bringing up would be there and the industry might be different today.  Both Charles and I agreed with Doug Messier except the reality on the ground is what has to be dealt with and for which solutions are needed regarding moving the commercial industry and HSF forward.  As the show was ending, Charles said development would not and does not follow a predicted path.  He also said that it was possible for there to be “moments of great acceleration” that could jump us forward.  This subject has not come up in recent years on TSS but it is worth noting that one cannot count on or build project around the hope for serendipity to change something.  Great if it happens but no way can one count on or plan  on it happening.  In the end, Charles and I both said that there is far more leadership awareness today than yesterday. I suggested that from Space Show interviews, lots of bright people were focused on solving this problem and I had faith that it would be solved though I had no idea of a timeline or what the solution would look like.  Charles concluded that commercial space and HSF will continue to evolve incrementally over time on an unpredicted path.

 

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