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Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 10-25-15 October 24, 2015

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Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 10-25-15

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Guest: Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  The Space Program of the 1960s.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. John Jurist to present his popular talk, “The Space Program of the 1960s.”  I have uploaded to The Space Show blog his Power Point presentation that he uses with this talk  so be sure to visit it.  He refers to many of the Power Point slides during this two hour Space Show program, especially slides featuring historical pictures.  The specific URL for this program on our blog is https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/dr-john-jurist-sunday-10-25-15.  During the first segment of our two hour program, Dr. Jurist discussed the origins of our space program going back to the 1920s with Robert Goddard and his rockets, and even earlier to Tsiolkovsky with the rocket equation.  John then advanced the story through WW2, V2 rockets, the development of the hydrogen bomb, the creation of the NSF, then on to Sputnik and the eventual launch the first American satellite.  During this overview, Dr. Jurist received many listener questions as well as questions from me so this is quite the comprehensive discussion.  John also pointed out the interest in space from the public which drove media coverage.  He referenced Walt Disney, von Braun’s popular work, sci fi films, & Colliers Magazine articles.  He mentioned several stand out events such as JFK’s Rice University speech, the Apollo 1 fire and then Apollo 7 which contained thousands of human spaceflight safety advancements and improvements and the testing of many of those advancements with the Apollo 7 flight.  A listener asked about nuclear propulsion and NERVA.  This resulted in a phone call from Dr. Dewar who continued the discussion with nuclear propulsion but advanced it to include the development cryogenic systems to support the H bomb and then these systems making their way to NASA.  John and Jim had much to say about the H bomb and space development connections so don’t miss this discussion.  By the way, Dr. Dewar is returning to The Space Show on Dec. 6.  John talked about the biomedical advancements in aviation that contributed to safer HSF. Here, he mentioned the work by Dr. John Paul Stapp and others, especially out of Holloman AFB in New Mexico.  Don’t miss this discussion or the relevant PPT slides.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called to continue the discussion about the H-bomb and space connections, huge airplanes to deliver the large bombs and the later development of compact warheads which lead to the use of smaller missiles.  They also compared these advancements to the Soviet Union program of the day as the soviets used a different system for the bomb which resulted in it being smaller than the initial American weapons.  The two John’s continued talking about cryogenic development.  Dr. Jurist then advanced the discussion to the economic benefits of space development and how space has advanced the standard of living for everyone on the planet.  Some side discussion topics including space and former V.P. Spiro Agnew, space shuttles, Skylab, and bone metabolism resulting in the DEXA scan.  Dr. Doug called in to talk about baby boomers and the creation of graduate students in STEM and non-STEM fields.  He also asked if a DEXA scan could be made small enough to go to the ISS for real time measurements.  Dr. Jurist offered an easier way for those real time studies.  Several listeners asked Dr. Jurist if we could recreate this type of program today.  John said he was doubtful, especially given the IRB would likely have a total fit with self-experimentation.  He spent more time on the Apollo 1 fire, then he got questions about the opportunity cost of space development asking if we would not have had the same advancements if not more had we spent the money on programs other than space.  Don’t miss how John responded to this question.  Another listener pointed out emergency and trauma medical advancements as a result of recent wars and asked our guest if those advancements would have come about had it not been for the recent wars that helped develop these new treatment protocols.  Again, don’t miss how Dr. Jurist responded to this question.  As our program was ending, Dr. Jurist offered concluding comments that you will certainly want to hear and consider.

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Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, Monday, 7-20-15 July 21, 2015

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Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, Monday, 7-20-15

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Guests: Rand Simberg, Bill Simon. Topics: July 20th celebration, Evoloterra.com, U.S. space policy. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed back Rand Simberg and Bill Simon to the show to discuss the importance of July 20, 1969, our having landed on the Moon leaving Earth behind, and their ceremony, Evoloterra (www.evoloterra.com). During the first segment of our 1 hour 26 minute program, Bill and Rand talked about the creation of the Evoloterra ceremony, what it signifies and what it honors. They talked about the importance of storytelling and why they modeled Evoloterra on the Passover Seder. Both guests talked about the importance of leaving Earth’s gravity well for the first time for another planet though later Rand offered a correction to that statement since the Moon orbits Earth and the Apollo crew was always in the sphere of influence of Earth. Rand said going to Mars would be the first time humans will have left the influence of our home planet. This discussion covered a large part of the first segment. Next, we got into space policy and theoretical discussions such as what the world would be like, including US space policy, had the Soviets beat us to the Moon and established a permanent lunar base there. Both our guests offered speculative views of alternative time lines & realities had something like that actually happened. Getting into the Evoloterra relevance today, Rand took the lead and had much to say about our current space policy, how we should be doing things and why we should not be trying to recreate Apollo. In addition, our guests talked about going to Mars and at one point it was said that there was probably no path to Mars without going through the Moon. We talked about the press conference today announcing the new Return to the Moon plan. You can download and read the plan at www.scribd.com/doc/272096719/NexGen-report-on-leveraging-commercial-rockets-to-return-to-the-moon. Rand had interesting comments about it though given it had just come out a few hours before our show today, none of us had yet read the 100 page plus report. However, It will be the subject of our next Open Lines show. Rand made several points that doing great things in space did not have to come about due to a policy based on war, referring to Apollo and the Cold War. Skipping over to the second segment, we talked about previous reports regarding space policy and Rand noted that these earlier reports did not advocate a national policy for space settlement. We then discussed space settlement for a good part of this segment, with our guests explaining why it should be our national policy. For future missions, Rand kept saying they did not have to be based on battles and wars. Bill said we needed the challenges & to win. Several catalyst type events were mentioned including asteroid threats. Rand talked about addressing many issues including space mining, property rights and affordability. Both guests offered excellent closing comments, don’t miss them. Post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Rand and Bill through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Brian Altmeyer, Friday, 10-24-14 October 25, 2014

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Brian Altmeyer, Friday, 10-24-14

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Guest:  Brian Altmeyer.  Topics:  We discussed the guest’s article posted on the Oct. 6, 2014 issues of The Space Review:  “The Strange Contagion Of a Dream.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Brian Altmeyer to the program to discuss his Oct. 6, 2014 Space Review article, “The Strange Contagion of a Dream: How Space Visionaries Hijack Governments to Change the World (see http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2611/1). During the first segment of our 1 hour 27 minute discussion, Mr. Altmeyer introduced us to the background behind writing this article, how he got the idea for it, plus he explained the overall impact space visionaries have had on him and his interest in space development.  Our guest took us back in time to the V2 program, Von Braun, and the politics of beating the Soviet Union to the Moon.  He made the case that both the Soviet Union’s and the US space program fed off each other in the form of competition to not only develop military space resources and ICBMs, plus our civil space programs as well.  I then asked our guest if he thought competition with China over their lunar and long range plans would result in a similar push for civil and commercial space.  His response was very interesting.  Ellen in Portland sent an email suggesting we did not have inspirational or effective leaders today like we had with Von Braun and others.  Brian disputed that and made reference to Elon Musk at SpaceX several times during our discussion.  Gerald Driggers called to talk about the impact of the International Geophysical Year on our early program.  Gerald worked in the early space program & had much to say about the main space personalities of the time along with the early rockets.  Our guest was asked about vision and Mars One, again he brought up SpaceX, and then he talked about exoplanets.  I asked him about the second to last paragraph in his paper regarding leadership issues and many waiting or expecting a new leader to come on the scene in a future election.  Don’t miss his comments on this issue.

In the second segment, Brian was asked about space budgets serving as a limiting factor & if SpaceX was carrying too much of the burden for our moving forward with space development.  Listeners asked him about sustainable space projects inspired & pushed by advocacy.  Do the projects continue or eventually die off?  Allison sent in a note asking our guest why we even needed HSF.  For his response, he cited reasons often provided by Elon Musk when he gets this question or one like it.  Near the end of the program, Ron emailed our guest to challenge his visionary outlook by asking if he had considered the reality of applying  human medical factors, engineering realities, orbital mechanics, & the known science for rockets & human spaceflight regarding the type of visionary statements made by Brian during the show.  This proved to be an interesting discussion as Brian said there were two ways to resolve such issues.  One way would be through testing and incremental progress to resolve or mitigate problems and the other way would be to just do the flight and sort of learn on the job, realizing there would be lots of casualties but at least we would be flying and learning.  I asked our guest if he was dismissing the known engineering &science including medical science.  He said he was not but clearly he preferred the second approach to problem solving. What do you think?

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Open Lines, Sunday, 5-18-14 May 19, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 5-18-14

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  The passing of Roger Easton, father of GPS, Russia, ISS, NASA, Ukraine, sanctions, space policy.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to this 2 hour 1 minute program.  In our first segment, we started with the first caller, Richard Easton who told us about the passing of his Dad, Roger Easton, the father of GPS.  Richard has been a guest on the show several times &we were most fortunate to have Roger as a guest as well several years ago.  We took this opportunity to honor Roger Easton & talk about the early days of Roger’s timing work which formed the backbone of GPS.  Richard went through some of the early history with us as he has done on previous shows. I urge you to listen to this call plus go back and listen to Richard’s earlier shows, including his first one when Roger was with him. You will hear oral history at its best & from the major scientist/engineer who brought us GPS.  After Richard’s call, we took our first break.

In the second segment, I read a NASA PR announcement about the successful recovery of Dragon bringing back 3,500 lbs. of cargo from the ISS.  Congratulations to SpaceX and NASA!.  John from Ft. Worth called to talk about the U.S. sanctions on Russia regarding the Crimea/Ukraine, the Atlas 5, the RD-180 engine and various straggles that might unfold for the ISS.  John was asking thought provoking questions which neither of us could answer but we do know the situation is largely political rhetoric and posturing right now but could easily change.  I asked John if he thought we might fast track the development of HSF and Dragon.  As he said, we wait and see.  Next, I took a very short break to return with my attempt to respond to the questions about Russia, the ISS, and sanctions asked by Kelly in his email which I read on air.  Our next caller was first time caller John from New Jersey who took us through to the end of the program.  John’s call was an excellent one & I urge you to listen to what he had to say.  We talked about the old shuttle policy, the possible use of depots, lunar settlement & using the Moon for training and experience to go further out in space.  We also talked about Mars and asteroid mission, then the issue of leadership came up regarding policy & in particular, space.  Like so many of us frustrated by our current situation, John was unable to find answers to how to advance policy.  I asked him if the militarization of space by another state actor might be a driver for the type of space activities we had been talking about.  He did not think so but listen to his answer.  One of his favorite comments  was to the effect that “we are having Star Trek dreams in a wagon train universe!”  Prior to ending our program, I went over our upcoming Space Show schedule.

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 3-29-13 March 29, 2013

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 3-29-13

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Cordell. Topics:  Space Trends for 2013 & the coming period of Ebullience for grand space projects.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell to discuss the ten major space trends for 2013 and the Maslow Window forecast for a coming period of ebullience, economic boom, and large space projects.  For more information, visit his website, www.21stcenturywaves.com.  His article titled “10 Space Trends for 2013 – Featuring the Approach of the New International Space Age can be found at http://21stcenturywaves.com/2013/02/13/state-of-the-wave-10-space-trends-for-2013-featuring-the-approach-of-the-new-international-space-age.  During the first half of our two hour discussion, Dr. Cordell took us through the history of his development of fractal Maslow Window forecasts, plus the historical data used to predict a Maslow Window.  After his introduction, we then talked about Mars and the excitement surrounding Mars with the Curiosity rover and the newly announced Inspiration Mars HSF mission Mars flyby per Dennis Tito.  Dr. Cordell spent considerable time connecting the dots for us to the importance of the Inspiration Mars mission & the coming predicted boom and period of ebullience.  Michael Listener called in to suggest the possibility of the government not providing a launch license for the Inspiration Mars launch.  This sparked an intense discussion regarding the likelihood of the government blocking such a mission.

In our second segment, Dr. Cordell talked about the space relationship to the war threats made North Korea and Iran.  Here, he connected the dots to the U.S. B2 Korean flyover and the Iranian and N. Korea threats to precursors that show up before the boom and period of ebullience.  He cited the Cuban Missile Crisis as an example prior to Apollo.  Again citing the precursors, he suggested that the “bumpy road” most always led to the boom period.  Several email listener questions came in regarding the U.S. & global economic condition & how it impacted his forecast.  Here, he referenced panics before each boom.  Bruce suggested we would be entering the period of ebullience around 2014 or 2015 but he also cited some reasons why the period could possibly be delayed, thus appearing much later.  But he definitely cited periods of financial panic as precursors to the boom periods.  He also talked about geopolitical events & their influence, including the role of conflicts.  Near the end of our program, he talked about the importance of the 2014 elections & our then had more to say about the Tito Mars flyby mission.

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Rand Simberg, Dr. Margaret Jordan, Bill Simon, “Evoloterra,” Friday, 7-20-12 July 20, 2012

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Rand Simberg, Dr. Margaret Jordan, Bill Simon, “Evoloterra,” Friday, 7-20-12

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Guests:  Rand Simberg, Dr. Margaret Jordan, Bill Simon.  Topics:  Celebration of the 43rd Anniversary of our moon landing per Evoloterra.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Rand Simberg & Bill Simon and for the first time, Dr. Margaret Jordan, to present Evoloterra to The Space Show audience to commemorate and honor the 43rd anniversary our Apollo 11 landing on the Moon.  You can download or print the Evoloterra Ceremony at www.evoloterra.com.  During our first segment, the three authors of Evoloterra provided us with an overview and history of how Evoloterra came to be written, then the four of us read the ceremony on air.  Rand took the part of the ceremony leader, then Bill, Margaret & I alternated with one another reading the paragraphs following the leader questions.  This segment, our reading of Evoloterra, told the story of how humans evolved and were able to develop the knowledge, skills, and technology to go to the Moon in 1969.  On the completion of the ceremony we then went to our break.

In our second segment, we started off with “dinner conversation” about Evoloterra, our Moon landing, what it meant then, and what it means for today.  We fielded listener calls & emails about the ceremony.  We talked about educational outreach, our public schools, and doing the ceremony tonight (July 20), this weekend, or in the near future to remember and understand this important accomplishment with family and friends.  Another of our topics was focused on making sure that those 500 years in the future will know what we did 43 years ago today and just how we did it.  This remembrance gets more & more complicated as our Moon landing fades into our past history.  One listener asked if Evoloterra had impact on policy makers. Rand said he did not think so.  Rand told us about a website, www.wherewereyou.com.  Here, you can upload your story as to where you were when we landed on the Moon, what you were doing, & what it meant to you.  As our program was ending, we finished the ceremony by reading the Evoloterra Epilogue. Our guests then closed out the program with their concluding thoughts and comments.

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Dr. Roger Launius, Friday, 12-2-11 December 3, 2011

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Dr. Roger Launius, Friday, 12-2-11

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Guest:  Dr. Roger Launius.  Topics:  National Air & Space Museum at the Smithsonian, Mars in our culture, Russian & U.S. Mars missions.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed back Dr. Roger Launius to the program.  His blog which we talked about during the interview can be seen at http://launiusr.wordpress.com.  We started our discussion with the mention of his recent blog post, “The Lure of the Red Planet: Early Flyby Missions to Mars.”  Dr. Launius went through a short history of Soviet/Russian attempts to go to Mars as well as those of the U.S. in recent years.  His blog article contains a more comprehensive listing of these missions and is a good resource for this information.  We talked about private enterprise doing Mars missions and our guest said the business case would have to close for that to happen and that we were not there yet.  I asked about cultural drivers concerning our interest in Mars. I also inquired about the symphony by Gustav Holtz, “The Planets” and his “Mars, Bringer of War.”  Dr. Launius talked about Mars in our culture going back to H.G. Wells, others in the early 1900’s, science fiction literature, as well as early astronomy.  Another of his blog posts we explored was his comparison of Sputnik to 9/11 as there were parallels and similarities.  Don’t miss this interesting discussion.  In our second segment, we talked about the Smithsonian getting the Discovery Space Shuttle, its eventual display, and the disposition of Enterprise which is currently at the Smithsonian.  Dr. Launius explained how they will display Discovery to preserve it as close to a real time flying shuttle as possible for historical purposes. We learned that visitors will not be able to walk through it.  He does explain the display plans in full, plus he talks about getting the shuttle from KSC to the museum near Dulles Airport and then getting Enterprise to New York as it is to be displayed at the Intrepid Museum.  Roger received listener questions about the display of the Enola Gay B-29 which is at the Smithsonian as well as SpaceShipOne.  Listeners also asked for his thoughts on Phobos-Grunt and its loss.  Our guest pointed out it was the 5th loss of a Russian mission in a year, pointing to some definite problems in the Russian space industry.  Some of the problems he described regarding the Russian space industry sounded similar to what is happening with our own space workforce.  Commercial space and the private sector came up for discussion with Roger saying that a big difference is that private enterprise will operate their vehicles, not the government.  Dr. Launius was asked about space tourism and if it was possible to evaluate any type of market based on visits and comments to the SpaceShipOne exhibit. We talked about STEM educational issues, protecting the Apollo lunar landing sites as historical sites, Pluto in the Smithsonian & the New Horizons Mission.  As our program ended, we talked about Plutonium 238 and RTGs for space missions.,  And a listener wanted to know about the plausibility of one way manned Mars missions.  Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above.