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Open Lines, Tuesday, 7-8-14 July 9, 2014

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 7-8-14

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  A variety of space topics were discussed in this Open Lines program.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF.  See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs,  please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show.  This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to this 2 hour 11 minute Open Lines Show.  As we started our first segment, I made several announcements including the return to action for the Space Cynics blog.  This time we will be accepting guest editorials.  Watch for the guidelines/rules for guest editors and those submitting comments to the blog.  Once you see the guidelines/rules on the top blog menu bar, Space Cynics will be officially back. See http://spacecynic.wordpress.com.  I also talked about a recent NPR interview with the inventor of the Super Soaker water gun who just happens to be a top guy at JPL!  I’ll make an effort to invite this person to the show.  Our first caller was from Scott who wanted to talk about and promote his Droid platform app for orbital speed calculations.  If you are interested in downloading this app to your Droid device, search in Google Play for “Orbital Speed.”   Scott described his app and how it worked and since there was some history re the app and the Charles Pooley Microlaunchers book, that came up during the discussion.  This was probably the dominant topic in the first segment.  Pooley did call in regarding the app and the references to his book, but Charles, in addition to promoting Microlaunchers as he usually does, also spoke about himself as the SPACE Heretic.  You can read about this at the tiny URL goo.gl/vo7Ux7 (cut & paste to your browser or use the full URL http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140620023828-9942227-charles-pooley-heratic?_mSplash=1).  During this segment, we also talked briefly about hybrid rocket motors and specifically about escape velocity.  I read an email from B John in Sweden suggesting that going to the Moon or Mars was and is counterproductive for our HSF program.  I asked for listener comment but unfortunately this topic was not picked up by the listeners.  Perhaps some of you listening on archives will post a blog comment about B John’s ideas.

In the second segment, John Hunt called in to talk some more about escape velocity and the formulas for it.  He then asked a series of question about science and STEM education.  I shared what I knew about the topic but we were hoping for teachers or others involved in this field to call in with more information.  Perhaps those of you working in these fields can post some detailed comments in response to John’s questions on the blog.  We had several emails about American public participation for a better HSF policy and for influencing policy makers and Congress for space policy.  The email questions seemed to think some level of American public participation was needed but that the pressure in numbers was not there compared to non-space issues receiving funding.  Also, most thought that the next election was actually the focus of Congress so without the numbers and pressure pushing for this or that policy, other projects get priority funding.  John called back to talk about the need for competition and the lack of it.  Near the end, I read a series of emails with a space advocate saying those that disagreed with him on specific issues were wrong, uninformed, etc. I asked listeners what they thought of this my way or the highway space advocacy mindset.  John did talk about the upcoming NASA down select process and we both thought for sure SpaceX would be selected.  John then said NASA and the public program lacked vision but SpaceX had a vision.

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Walt Cunningham @ Rocky Mtn College, 4-4-14 May 7, 2014

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Walt Cunningham @ Rocky Mtn College, 4-4-14

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Guest Speaker: Walter Cunningham. Topics:   Walt’s Apollo 7 & Skylab experiences, STEM & student inspiration. Please note that this talk by Walt Cunningham was recorded live at Rocky Mountain College in Billings, Montana on Friday, April 4, 2014. The copyright for this program/talk is held by Dr. John Jurist and Rocky Mountain College. Both Dr. Jurist and Rocky Mountain College have given permission for The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation to archive the talk on The Space Show website and blog as an audio only file and The Space Show Vimeo channel for the video presentation of Walt’s comments (see http://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow). Topics: Walt’s Apollo 7 & Skylab experiences, STEM & student inspiration. Please note that this talk by Walt Cunningham was recorded live at Rocky Mountain College in Billings, Montana on Friday, April 4, 2014. The copyright for this program/talk is held by Dr. John Jurist and Rocky Mountain College. Both Dr. Jurist and Rocky Mountain College have given permission for The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation to archive the talk on The Space Show website and blog as an audio only file and The Space Show Vimeo channel for the video presentation of Walt’s comments. All questions and comments about this program should be addressed to Dr. Jurist in care of The Space Show mailing or email address per The Space Show website (www.thespaceshow.com).

Walt was welcomed to Rocky Mountain University and began his 66 minute talk. During his talk to Rocky students and invited guests, the well known and highly regarded Apollo 7 astronaut discussed a variety of topics in this Rocky Mountain College public forum. He talked about the significance of the Apollo 7 mission, its “firsts,” what it was like to fly in space, his views on the global warming controversy, and why it is important for citizens to evaluate the data and draw their own conclusions on public issues with a scientific basis rather than necessarily trusting the pronouncements of journalists and politicians. Walt’s talk was very well received by Rocky students and the public and received appropriate press coverage in Billings and throughout Montana. If you want to contact Walt Cunningham, please do so through Dr. Jurist.. All questions and comments about this program should be addressed to Dr. Jurist in care of The Space Show mailing or email address per The Space Show website (www.thespaceshow.com). Walt was welcomed to Rocky Mountain University and began his 66 minute talk. During his talk to Rocky students and invited guests, the well known and highly regarded Apollo 7 astronaut discussed a variety of topics in this Rocky Mountain College public forum. He talked about the significance of the Apollo 7 mission, its “firsts,” what it was like to fly in space, his views on the global warming controversy, and why it is important for citizens to evaluate the data and draw their own conclusions on public issues with a scientific basis rather than necessarily trusting the pronouncements of journalists and politicians. Walt’s talk was very well received by Rocky students and the public and received appropriate press coverage in Billings and throughout Montana.

If you want to contact Walt Cunningham, please do so through Dr. Jurist.

Open Lines, Tuesday, 11-12-13 November 13, 2013

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 11-12-13

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Listeners called in to discuss a wide ranging set of topics from propulsion, SLS, Lunar COTS, STEM, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Welcome to this 2 hour 2 minute Open Lines discussion.  Jeff was our first caller regarding propulsion, SLS, Orion, SRBs, ATK, advanced technology as compared to existing or old technology, composite materials, and much more.  I also asked him about sequestration in the defense side of space.  Todd sent an email to Jeff to inquire what he thought about the possibility of an SLS cancelation.  We talked about the possibility of canceling the SLS project due to economic issues with the government.  Jeff also spoke about XCOR, ULA, Rocketdyne, pumps, and lower cost options with NewSpace companies.  Charles Pooley called in to talk about the Indian Mars mission, the 4 stage PSLV rocket, and his forthcoming book due out before the end of the year.  Tim sent in a STEM article & he called so we talked about the article but both of us did not think much of the author’s comments on the subject.  Next up was Doug from Southern California regarding articles about Bigelow and Lunar Cots.  The use of SLS was discussed for commercial missions or public/private partnerships and I parted company from his analysis and conclusions.  The articles suggested by Doug included www.parabolicarc.com/2013/11/12/50647 and www.newspacejournal.com/2013/11/12/bigelow-report-calls-for-use-of-cots-model-for-cislunar-transportation.  As frequent listeners know, Doug is a strong advocate of lunar cots.  I also asked him what the profitable commercial mission would for lunar cots.  Mostly Doug talked about selling rides to NASA except with the SLS, they would be using a gov. vehicle. It’s an interesting discussion.  What do you think about the ideas we talked about?  Andrew from Tucson was our last caller and we learned he has been busy with precision tool and engineering for rocket parts.  We also talked about the need for cultural changes in the country and he talked specifics in this area, not with generalizations.  We also talked about astronomy, career paths, and telescopes.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  If you want to email any of the participants, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Chris Carberry, Sunday, 4-7-13 April 8, 2013

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Chris Carberry, Sunday, 4-7-13

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Guest:  Chris Carberry.  Topics:  Exploremars.org and their upcoming Humans2Mars Summit, the Mars Generation Opinion Poll.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

In the first segment of this 1 hour 46 minute program, we welcomed back Chris Carberry, Executive Director of Explore Mars (www.exploremars.org) to discuss their upcoming Humans 2 Mars Summit (H2M) from May 6-8 at GWU in Washington, DC (see http://h2m.exploremars.org).  Chris talked about the purpose of this conference, the logistics, registration, and the speakers.  We also went into some detail regarding the panels, their topics, and panel members, all of which are detailed on the H2M website.  We specifically talked about Inspiration Mars in both segments, risk taking, government regulation, and the level of the public’s interest in human spaceflight missions to Mars.  Financing HSF missions to Mars was another topic near the end of the first segment.

In the second segment, we focused on the Mars Generation Opinion Poll which can be found at www.exploremars.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Mars-Generation-Survey-full-report-March-7-2013.pdf.  Here, we went over several of the survey questions and the results, including questions pertaining to human spaceflight and Mars in light of our current budget constraints, why go to Mars in the first place, should we increase NASA’s budget to at least 1% of the federal budget, what are the biggest barriers to sending crews to Mars, the value of returning to the Moon as compared to going to Mars, and more.  I urge all of you to check out the opinion poll as it had some interesting and surprising results, at least from my perspective.  Later in this segment, a listener asked Chris about both the Mars One mission and the Inspiration Mars flyby mission.  Don’t miss what Chris had to say about both proposed missions.  Another listener asked if Explore Mars thought human spaceflight to Mars was near term, hence the H2M Summit.  Don’t miss what Chris said in response to this question and his idea of a time line for a human mission to Mars.  We also talked about the public’s view that any HSF Mars Mission would involve the public sector, preferably with the private sector.  We concluded our discussion by again referencing the upcoming Humans 2 Mars Summit.

If you have any questions or comments, please post them on The Space Show blog.  You can contact Chris Carberry or get more information about the upcoming conference by visiting the Explore Mars website.

Space Show-SWF Webinar, On-Orbit Satellite Servicing, Sunday, 8-19-12 August 20, 2012

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Space Show-SWF Webinar, On-Orbit Satellite Servicing, Sunday, 8-19-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1836-BWB-2012-08-19.mp3

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Guests:  Brian Weeden, Richard DalBello, Major General, USAF (Retired) James B. Armor, Jr..  This is a SWF sponsored webinar addressing issues related to the on-orbit servicing of satellites.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS A TWO HOUR WEBINAR PRODUCTION SPONSORED BY THE SECURE WORLD FOUNDATION (SWF).  YOU CAN VIEW THIS WEBINAR AT https://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow.  We welcomed Brian Weeden, Richard DalBello, & Major General, USAF (Retired) James B. Armor, Jr. to the program for an in-depth discussion of on-orbit satellite servicing. This is a new business/industry that is emerging with great interest from governments, the satellite industry, & many other interested parties.  During our first webinar hour, our guests explained satellite on-orbit servicing, why the interest in it, the values on the table, & the economics behind this developing industry.  We heard from the perspective of the satellite operator with Mr. DalBello, from General Armor with the perspective of a company wanting to provide these services plus what they are commercially doing now in this emerging industry.  Gen. Armor talked about the new ATK venture for satellite repair, Vivisat (www.vivisat.com).  He was followed by Mr. Weeden who connected the dots with us regarding the big picture implications for security, stability, & policy.  We talked about liability issues, insurance, & LEO & GEO satellites in terms of their respective economic value & lifespan.  A listener asked about GPS satellites, launch costs, & competition here & abroad.  In fact, Brian mentioned several projects outside the US with the Canadians, Germans, & JAXA.  Toward the end of the first hour, caller Jack asked about testing & reliability, wondering if repairing satellites would reduce reliability engineering & testing on the ground, thus lowering the satellite’s cost given the possibility of on-orbit repair.  Ben followed asking if satellites having a longer life would be sold, comparing this potential to selling real estate once a property has been fully depreciated.

In our webinar second hour, Brian described the DARPA Phoenix Satellite Service project, http://www.darpa.mil/our_work/tto/programs/phoenix.aspx.  The issue of satellite abandonment came up & as you will hear, there is no way to abandon any object in space.  Another issue in this segment was space situational awareness (SSA).  We talked about SSA in LEO, with the new entrepreneurial small satellite companies doing LEO ventures, & the implication of this new industry for launching to & operating in GEO.  Later in this segment, we learned that there was no commercial incentive to address the space debris issue. Don’t miss the analysis behind this statement as its important in understanding the space debris issue.  A listener asked Richard about launch vehicle insurance & premiums, specifically for the Falcon 9.  Also in this segment we talked about the NASA satellite servicing mission, the Restore Mission (http://ssco.gsfc.nasa.gov/robotic_servicing_mission.html).  As our webinar drew to a close, we addressed the importance of a STEM education for our young students & the exciting space projects that today’s students will get to do in their careers. Everyone’s closing comments reflected the future orientation & focus for this evolving industry.

Please post your comments/questions on the blog.  If you want to email our guests, send your note to me & I will forward it for you.

 

Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tuesday, 3-6-12 March 6, 2012

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tuesday, 3-6-12

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Guest:  Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Subject:  Dr. Tyson talks space policy along with his new book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier” and his article in the current edition of Foreign Affairs, , “The Case For Space: Why We Should Keep Reaching for the Stars.” You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson back to the show for a comprehensive hour long discussion on space policy, the NASA budget, investment in our future, the space race, and many more issues as pointed out in both his Foreign Affairs article and in his new book.  Remember, if you order his book using the following Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation: www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393082105/ref=onegiantleap20.  You can read his Foreign Affairs article at www.scribd.com/doc/82592118/The-Case-for-Space.  During our hour with Neil, we discussed the NASA budget and why it should be increased.  Dr. Tyson also pointed out why humor was so important and what it really means as I asked him about the joking and kidding around regarding space when he visits programs such as The Daily Show.  Neil also made the case for more space activity and talked about spinoffs but additionally he talked about the economic growth that comes from innovation and inspiration, along with unplanned and fortunate discoveries. Here, he cited the Hubble Space Telescope and mammograms as an example.  He also suggested that with a space program that is innovative and doing what it should be doing, the STEM education problems are solved in the process.  We talked about NASA not being one of the key scientific government agencies anymore and he was upset that this was and is not being corrected.  Dr. Tyson had much to say about the role of the private sector in space development in that government typically puts down the infrastructure and opens the industry door with the privates coming after, expanding the industry, operating more efficiently, and developing markets.  A listener asked about planetary defense and asteroids, another listener inquired about space enthusiasts running for political office, and Jon suggested that giving NASA a bigger budget would just be a waste as NASA is all about pork.  Neil addressed all of these questions and more.  I urge listeners to read his book and if possible, read the Foreign Affairs article before you listen to the interview. During our discussion, Dr. Tyson said some very powerful things.  For example, note our discussion on the NASA budget as an investment, not an expense.  Neil described himself as an educator so listen to what he had to say about how to influence people and create change through education by teaching real science and facts so people can make truly informed choices.  Pay attention to what he said about a country that does not invest in its future and why space should be the future getting the investment benefit.  Throughout this interview, Neil powerfully reminded us all that even in tough economic times like today, NASA has been instrumental in shaping our national identity, inspiring us, driving our economy, driving careers in the STEM disciplines, and bringing us landmark, groundbreaking new technologies.  I personally believe that Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson makes a very good case for space.   Please post any comments/questions you might have for Dr. Tyson on The Space Show blog URL above.

 

 

Dennis Wingo, Friday, 2-3-12 February 3, 2012

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Dennis Wingo, Friday, 2-3-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1704-BWB-2012-02-03.mp3

Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  Space commerce, a new space vision and plan, space applications.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Dennis Wingo who outline for us a new and inspiring commercial space policy and implementation program.  To make his points, Dennis started out by discussing the news stories this week about the UN plan for a panel to control economic growth around the world for sustainability.  You can read about it at http://news.yahoo.com/un-panel-says-retool-world-economy-sustainability-164515165.html as well as a host of other sites and articles on the internet. Also, check out the planned UN Rio Conference on this program at www.un.org/esa/dsd/index.shtml?utm_source=OldRedirect&utm_medium=redirect&utm_content=dsd&utm_campaign=OldRedirect.  Dennis spent considerable time during our 90 minute discussion dismissing the dystopian view/policy per this UN panel while advocating why space development offered a viable alternative to this limiting policy and way of seeing our world.  During our one hour first segment and in fact the entire show, Dennis championed science and fact over dystopian policy.  He also talked about geo orbits and said there was a newly found orbit requiring much less energy that could be used for going to the Moon so pay attention to what he said about this orbit.  He offered up some new/unusual ideas such as an open cockpit lunar lander.  Dennis put forth a basic strategic plan for staying positive and using our time and energy to do something to prove we advocates are right rather than getting involved in the negative process which we have very little influence over.  Several listeners commented on this strategy, bringing to bear some differences over what Dennis suggested.  That said, the message Dennis presented us was to stay focused on the positive.  Later, he said that the advocacy community’s focus on low cost launch was misdirected.  He talked about this a lot during this segment and the next so don’t miss what he had to say about this important issue.  Dennis did advocate Zero G Zero Tax which he said was good for space applications. Also in this segment he talked about the advances we have made in robotic technology and the Pisces Project in Hawaii, http://pisces.uhh.hawaii.edu.  As this segment ended, he talked about the “Church of SSP,” updating his book “Moonrush,” & the need for unity in the advocacy community. 

In the second segment, a listener asked about the Dr. Spudis cislunar economic development plan and Dennis talked about the need to lower total capital costs.  He also talked about prizes such as the Mars prize recently suggested by Dr. Zubrin.  Dennis repeated that the way to counter the bad press & media was to do something, a space application, to prove that we are right and those ridiculing space investment are wrong. Near the end, he said “the future will right itself….Don’t focus on the negative.” 

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Dr.James Hughes, Friday, 12-23-11 December 23, 2011

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Dr.James Hughes, Friday, 12-23-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1677-BWB-2011-12-23.mp3

Guest:  Dr. James Hughes.  Topics:  We discussed his book, “Citizen Cyborg: Why Democratic Societies Must Respond To The Redesigned Human Of The Future,” human enhancement, public & space policy, long duration spaceflight. The Space Show wishes all of you a very Merry Christmas and holiday season.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed Dr. James Hughes to the program to discuss his new book, “Citizen Cyborg: Why Democratic Societies Must Respond To The Redesigned Human Of The Future.”  Please note that we experienced telephone noise which you will hear as audio noise on this show.  Unfortunately, we could not edit out the phone line background noise.  Our discussion started with a focus on bio and medical ethics and an assessment of an anti-technology, anti-science movement in various segments of society and that impact policy making.  In Citizen Cyborg, Dr. Hughes talks about using human enhancement and other  technologies to push the boundaries of humans to improve the quality of our lives.  Fundamental to being able to do this is overcoming the opposition and this was a significant part of our discussion.  We had several listener emails asking about playing God by pushing these technologies and engaging in the human enhancement technologies.  This took us into a discussion about God, religious and spiritual issues.  I believe you will find this discussion to be most interesting.  At times during our discussion we extrapolated to the space field, particularly human spaceflight.  In our second segment, listener Lonnie asked Dr. Hughes to describe some of the main bioethical issues.  Here, we got into animal research, morality, Apes, Great Apes, and even pets, specifically dogs.  We talked about our eventual settlement on Mars or elsewhere, making modifications for us to live on Mars or another world, and the ethics of making it possible for animals to live on the new world with us.  We talked about medical research, cloning, and human genetic modification, especially for space travel.  One listener asked if humans were cloned and we sent the clone on a deep space mission, was that the same as sending humans.  The answer was yes but you will want to hear the full discussion on this topic.  Later in the segment, Dr. Hughes was asked if human spaceflight could be a leader in developing human enhancement technologies or would it be a beneficiary.  Our guest said beneficiary and pointed to the main issue of needing cheap propulsion for human spaceflight.  Our guest was asked about his term bioLuddites which he uses in his book.  Dr. Hughes provided us with a brief history of Luddism and then we discussed the mix in society that makes up the bioLuddites.  Another listener asked if cosmetic surgery was also human enhancement and we asked Dr. Hughes about his theory as expressed in his book that happiness is an illusion.  Near the end of the program, he mentioned the organization of which he is the Executive Director, The Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies (www.ieet.org).  This Space Show discussion not only addressed human enhancement technologies for human spaceflight, but also for our society in general.  For those of you interested in the subject, I strongly recommend you read his book, Citizen Cyborg.  Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above.

Wes Oleszewski, Sunday, 12-11-11 December 11, 2011

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Wes Oleszewski, Sunday, 12-11-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1670-BWB-2011-12-11.mp3

Guest:  Wes Oleszewski.  Topics:  Commercial versus government launch vehicles, space policy, civility.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed back Wes Oleszewski to the show to discuss space policy, commercial as compared to government launch vehicles and much more.  Follow his space cartoon Klyde Morris at www.klydemorris.com.  You can also read the Aero-News article we discussed, “U.S. Spaceflight: Commercial Versus Federal at  www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=b3a012c0-812b-46d7-b58c-fb8959bd3509.  Our first segment was about 70 minutes out of this 2.5 hour show. We talked about the lack of civility in the space advocacy/enthusiast community as well as the Kool-Aid and lack of realism in some parts of the advocacy/enthusiast organizations.  This applied to space fans as well.  This discussion soon gave way to the SLS topic.  Our guest was supportive of it but got several listener questions stating why so many objected to it.  We talked about its lack of a mission but Wes did define its mission as a preliminary mission in that it was being built for beyond low Earth orbit (BLEO) with the rest to be decided later.  I asked our guests about the likelihood of it being built given the track record of NASA and Congress plus OMB in canceling these projects.  Wes then talked about the roles of Congress and OMB and our space budget. This brought us to our national spending and budget crisis and the space program in general  Other listeners phoned in and emailed us citing the NewSpace perspective on SLS. Don’t miss what Wes had to say about this.  Next, Space X came up as did the process of taking government money and how that might separate a new “commercial” company from other aerospace contractors.  Marshall called us about risk and demo flights, and then we got into a detailed discussion of thrust oscillation (TO) for the Ares 1.  We talked about some advocates making ATK into a villain and Space X and other new companies into saints.  I had much to say about ATK as being evil and Dr. Jurist called in to again tell what happened when he did real due diligence with ATK on the TO issue.  All three of us were very clear and definite in saying the attacks on ATK and other proven companies were unwarranted.  In our second long segment, Wes said we should not have retired the shuttle.  We talked about Mars missions and the origins of the MRI medical device.  Atlanta John called in to be supportive of SLS and its mission.  Jim sent in an email explaining why many are supportive of heavy lift but not supportive of SLS.  We talked about the lack of public awareness regarding space matters.  I then got off on one of my rants about the value of space which took us to STEM education.  We again returned to his theme that we in the advocacy/enthusiast community should be far more united.  When asked about individual organization goals such as the Moon, Mars, the frontier, etc, Wes clearly recommended we subordinate these interests to the overall good of speaking with a untied voice.  For his concluding Pearls of Wisdom, he cautioned us against being space groupies so to speak or running with the cyber pack.  We should avoid group think.  He said space was a team effort requiring all of us to be involved in supporting the team.  If you have questions/comments for Wes, please post them on the blog URL above.