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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15 November 11, 2015

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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15

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Guest: Dr. Charles Lurio.  Topic:  Commercial Space law updates, NASA, SLS, HSF, space leadership plus more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Dr. Charles Lurio for this comprehensive commercial space update plus Dr. Lurio took a hard look at human spaceflight.  During the first segment of our nearly 1 hour 55 minute show, Charles started with the news that broke just before airtime that congress had approved the new commercial space legislation.  The House and Senate compromised on the learning period extending it to 2023.  Charles hit on some highlights of the bill but said he had not yet had time to read the final version since the news literally broke minutes before air time.  Other first segment discussion topics included the return to flight for Falcon 9 and the Cygnus which will launch on an Atlas 5 until Antares has a return to flight sometime early next year.  Charles talked about the new Russian rocket motor for Antares and its relationship to other major Russian rocket motors.  Next, we talked about the NASA delay for the commercial cargo awards and their letter to Boeing saying that the cargo version of the CST 100 was no longer under consideration.  Charles speculated that the delay might have been taken to allow for return to flight for the Falcon and for the Cygnus on the Atlas 5.  Paul in NY emailed Charles asking for him to tell us his favorite commercial space company and his favorite NewSpace company.  Charles said he loved SpaceX and commented on them moving the ground in the launch industry.  He said he has always been a fan of XCOR and gave us some update at to the XCOR progress and challenges, especially in their wing production.  Charles also said that the asteroid mining companies, particularly Deep Space Industries, were starting to attract foreign capital as he mentioned investment interest from the Czech Republic.  I asked Charles if he was satisfied with the way the industry was developing so far.  He said he was amazed with it and what has happened so far, but made the point that commercial space was far from being on easy street.  He then explained his comments listing examples to support his comments.  I asked him about the NASA Roadmap to Mars and he repeated back to me, you meant the “Jokemap” to Mars?  That should provide you with a clue as to the rest of the discussion on this topic.  Before the break, Don called from New Hampshire to talk about radiation, Brookhaven, and human spaceflight.  Charles and Don talked about shielding, the lack of real quality experiments plus finding out answers to other needed questions for HSF BELO including life support systems, microgravity, plus lots more. Charles concluded that NASA was not serious about space, something many guests have said over and over again in recent years.  Don said the system management was shortsighted.  Charles said what we needed was a new NACA, not so much NASA.  This remained a theme for Charles for the rest of the show.  Before ending the call, Don talked about Japanese radiation experiments and equipment that NASA won’t use, citing NE213 and a newer version, EJ301.

 

In the second segment, I asked Charles what would be a reasonable set of expectations for our commercial and HSF program given the state of comprehensive matters facing the US and the world at this time in 2015.  Charles had some very interesting things to say in response to this question which actually commanded most of the second segment.  A subtopic in this discussion was the subject of technology and technology development.  Again, don’t miss what he said about technology.  I asked Charles about the development of cislunar space and the Moon.  He would welcome both but listen to all of what he had to say about this because he repeated himself that we were not doing anything.  Doug in S. California called in with multiple questions for Charles about what was needed for a flyby to Mars and more.  It appeared to me that Doug was not getting what Charles was talking about though Charles kept saying that Doug was not asking the right set of questions.  In summary, I think Doug was suggesting technology advancements lowering costs for example, would compel policy makers and the public to support and create the space policy we seem to yearn for when this subject comes up on the show. Charles kept repeating that the technology to be used was not the issue. Instead, the issue was political in that there was no will to do things, no leadership.  Since this is something I have ranted about on many Space Show programs, I supported Charles on the leadership issue and I do believe that having the will to do something serious in space and having the leadership to actually get policies in place that can be implemented are much bigger problems than the technology or even the financial side of things.  Once the policy and will are there, implementation is next and that is when technology will be looked at and decided upon.  See what you think about this discussion with Dr. Doug.  Later, on the same subject, Charles said it was very difficult to change society attitudes.  Doug Messier emailed in comments that it was easy to rant on NASA but pointed out the slow going of many commercial space projects from suborbital development to rocket development.  Doug suggested that had progress been faster, leadership and some of the issues Charles was bringing up would be there and the industry might be different today.  Both Charles and I agreed with Doug Messier except the reality on the ground is what has to be dealt with and for which solutions are needed regarding moving the commercial industry and HSF forward.  As the show was ending, Charles said development would not and does not follow a predicted path.  He also said that it was possible for there to be “moments of great acceleration” that could jump us forward.  This subject has not come up in recent years on TSS but it is worth noting that one cannot count on or build project around the hope for serendipity to change something.  Great if it happens but no way can one count on or plan  on it happening.  In the end, Charles and I both said that there is far more leadership awareness today than yesterday. I suggested that from Space Show interviews, lots of bright people were focused on solving this problem and I had faith that it would be solved though I had no idea of a timeline or what the solution would look like.  Charles concluded that commercial space and HSF will continue to evolve incrementally over time on an unpredicted path.

 

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Alexandra (Ally) Abrams, Tuesday, 9-29-15 September 30, 2015

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Alexandra (Ally) Abrams, Tuesday, 9-29-15

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Guest: Alexandra (Ally) Abrams. Topics: Communicating space advocacy more effectively. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Alexandra (Ally) Abrams to the show to learn more about how best to carry on effective communications regarding our space advocacy interests and efforts. Ally is the new Director of Communications for the Space Frontier Foundation plus she does communications for Boeing and previously for GE (see her full bio). During the first segment of our 93 minute program, Ally first responded to my question about her earning a bachelor’s degree in writing and rhetoric from Syracuse University. I asked if there was a departmental definition for rhetoric separate from how we typically refer to rhetoric in Space Show discussions. Ally had fun answering this question and that set the tone for what in my opinion was an excellent, informative, and very entertaining discussion with her on how best to communicate our space advocacy passion. Note that it is important to not just have excellent, informative and high quality discussions with our guests but having fun enhances the experiences and helps us learn and retain. After just a few minutes with Ally on The Space Show, it was easy to understand her success and accomplishments in the field of communication and relevant rhetoric, not the B.S. type of rhetoric. In addition, we talked about the narrative, the vision, and the need to tell a good story. She also talked about targeting various groups with different messages though the goals of the message for the organization might be similar. Ally mostly referred to Millennials and Boomers throughout our discussion. As for Millennials, she said they were motivated by wanting to improve the world, to do good and meaningful work and to be a positive force in the community. She cited Planet Labs as an example through their donation program. Also in this segment Ally talked about successful startups and the use of teams given no one person can be an expert in everything. Team members might include an expert in marketing, social media, finance, management as well as other disciplines. Listener John asked Ally a question using the SLS arguments on The Space Show as an example where the talking points for each side never change and nobody really listens to the opposing view. Ally had much to say about this & about removing emotion from the discussion. She also talked about strategies and tips for how to influence the opposition, plus the tactics that can be used to accomplish real communication with the opposition. Other topics in this segment dealt with audience segmentation, more differences in how to reach Boomers as compared to Millennials. Doug called to ask how the SFF support of NewSpace commercial space using Skybox as an example, facilitated the Foundation’s objective of space settlement. Ally offered a great response to this line of questioning that I supported. Don’t miss this discussion.

In the second segment, BJohn send us an email asking if we should stop using the politically charged word colonization for the more benign term settlement. Ally had much to say about this, especially if one wanted to communicate on an international level. Another question asked of our guest was if space advocacy in general would be enhanced and more effective if advocates and organizations spoke with a united voice rather than with so many diverse voices with separate goals. She said the unified approach always works best and one can see this with a simple review of history. Benny asked Ally what she would do if she heard people talking about a space topic, water on Mars for example, in a supermarket line and they were being negative or were poorly informed. Would Ally intervene in the discussion and if so, how would she communicate with these people. This opened the door a good discussion on communicating with the general public. Another suggestion offered us by our guest was to get rid of the use of jargon. Later, I asked our guest if it was important to sway the general public and if so, what percentage of the general public. Ally had much to say about the need to have support from the general public, then how best to communicate to the general public. Near the end of the program, Doug emailed us asking if it was more important to communicate to the general public or the decision makers. Ally suggested both were important but you should listen to her comprehensive response to Doug’s question. Other tips and tools were offered before the show ended and I am sure we will ask Ally to return as a guest to continue working with us to improve on our ability to sell space to other space advocates along with the general public.

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Dr. Lewis Dartnell, Friday, 8-21-15 August 22, 2015

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Dr. Lewis Dartnell, Friday, 8-21-15

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Guest: Dr. Lewis Dartnell. Topics: Rebooting civilization after a cataclysmic event & extrapolating to starting a space settlement. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Lewis Dartnell to discuss his book, “The Knowledge: How To Rebuild Civilization In The Aftermath Of A Cataclysm,” then applying it to starting up a space settlement regardless of where the settlement might be located. During our 68 minute discussion, Dr. Dartnell started out by giving us the background to his having written the book, some of the applicable constraints for the book, and that it was written for terrestrial events though there were ways to extrapolate some of it to space settlement issues. Dr. Dartnell explained what it would take to reboot civilization depending on why it was destroyed. He listed three possible sources of destruction. One was a viral epidemic or pandemic, another was nuclear war, and another was being hit by a large asteroid or something similar. He also said it might be easier to reboot after a pandemic because infrastructure would still be standing and largely available for use whereas with the other two, destruction would be overwhelming. We talked about skill sets needed to reboot, then we talked about the minimum size for a new community to start over. Here we extrapolated to space, exploring what it would take to start a space settlement. The initial numbers were high but not as high as what would be needed later on. The need for genetic diversity was also high. Several times he referred to needing more women than men for breeding to seed the new settlement, but without genetic diversity and in light of possible in-breeding to get the early numbers up, generations of humans might be born that were genetically weak and that could be a problem. Genetic diversity, needing more women than men, microgravity and radiation issues were just a few of the challenges for the new space settlement. Past the initial number to get the settlement going, to sustain it there would be a need for thousands in the community. You don’t want to miss this discussion as it was an eye opener. Don’t miss why he said he would rather start a new Earth settlement even after a horrific cataclysm than a Martian settlement. He said the Earth settlement would be far easier no matter what the challenges than the Mars settlement. Dr. Dartnell then talked about the possibility that someday an Earth-like exoplanet would be discovered so we compared starting a settlement there as opposed to Mars. To make this comparison, we zeroed out all issues relating to space transportation. You might be surprised by what Dr. Dartnell concluded. Later we compared a lunar settlement with the other two. Much of our discussion revolved around the fact that Earth was and is habitable and even after the horrific event, would remain habitable. Mars is not habitable nor is the Moon. That fact alone is a huge contributor to complexity and challenges. Listeners emailed and called to ask Dr. Dartnell questions ranging from the number of skilled people needed to start a space colony to having sperm banks in space for the genetic diversity required for the new settlement to how free floating habitats might be different in their requirements as compared to planetary settlements. Questions were asked about the problems resulting from human exposure to unfamiliar biology, human contamination of the planet, and the planet contaminating the humans. These were all interesting discussions so you definitely want to hear the full 68 minute program.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above. You can contact Dr. Dartnell through me or The Knowledge website, http://the-knowledge.org/en-gb.

 

 

Patrick Ritchie, Monday, 3-31-14 April 1, 2014

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Patrick Ritchie, Monday, 3-31-14

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Guest: Patrick Ritchie.  Subject:  South by Southwest event in Austin, TX and the space & science event components.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Patrick Ritchie to the program to discuss the space and tech components of the South by Southwest (SXSW) event held each March in Austin, TX.  During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Patrick introduced us to South by Southwest, the Interactive segment which is what space and tech are part of plus the larger event component, music.  As you will hear, the music side of  SXSW is by far larger with upwards of more than 150,000 attending while around 30,000 attend Interactive.  Patrick discussed some of the Interactive and specific space keynotes plus some of the space tracks at the event.  Patrick sent me several links to the space and tech Interactive components, including the Snowden keynote.  You can get more on this content by using these URLs:  Google Lunar X-Prize Panel:  http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP24530; Kerbal Space Program
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_OE03288;  Planetary protection
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP22997; Live with the ISS
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP25456; James Webb & Kepler
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP17180; User experience @ NASA
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP18449; & Snowden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIhS9aB-qgU.  Patrick addressed SXSW networking opportunities, gaming with specific attention on Kerbal Space.

In the second segment, we talked about Austin’s similarities to Silicon Valley, venture capital, innovation and the Austin culture, the University of Texas role in these areas, and the overall space awareness level of the Austin technology area plus the general population.  Listeners asked our guest about the Brownsville SpaceX spaceport proposal as well as their rocket testing site and the Blue Origins Texas location.  Tony called in regarding the talk by Elon Musk.  Patrick even got a question about the new Texas football coach!  More was said about the gaming part of the event and the Kerbal Space game.  We then talked about the Las Vegas SXSW V2V for start-ups and innovative businesses.  As the program was ending, Patrick fielded questions about Canadians and the Canadian Space Program.

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Dragos Bratasanu, Friday, 3-7-14 March 8, 2014

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Dragos Bratasanu, Friday, 3-7-14

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Guest:  Dragos Bratasanu.  Topics:  Failures in aerospace and aviation & how to avoid them.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back to the show Dragos Bratasanu to discuss his new ebook, “Engineering Success.”  Note that for a limited time, you can download this book for free from his website, www.successengineer.org.  In addition, he has given listeners Chapter One of his book which has been uploaded to The Space Show blog for this program.  During the first segment of this 94 minute discussion, Dragos started out by telling us why he wrote the book, what he wanted to accomplish with the book and the methodology he used in writing it.  He worked with several consultants and as you will hear, he cited numerous examples both in the space industry and outside the space industry to make his points about what he kept referring to as the social context of decision making, accountability, etc.  After providing us with the background to aviation and aerospace failures, he talked about remedies and modifications per the social context which I took to refer to the organizational culture though Dragos has a much broader definition which you will get during this interview.

In our second segment, he talked with us about scheduling and budget pressures that lead to failures and some of the recognizable danger signals.  He also provided us with some useful stats for speaking up from the employee ranks about problems and issues and why they often go unreported.  We talked about some additional specific corporate examples he used to make his point, plus we talked about the entrepreneurial space company culture.  Later, he went through the important four human needs followed by the four behaviors.  Our guest provided us with a good summary of his book and the subject.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can sign up for his free newsletter on his website and also for a limited time, download the ebook for free.  You can contact Dragos through his website or me.

 

Dr. Nader Elhefnawy, Friday, 6-8-12 June 8, 2012

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Dr. Nader Elhefnawy, Friday, 6-8-12

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Guest:  Dr. Nader Elhefnawy.  Topics:  Space warfare reality and hype.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dr. Nader Elhefnawy back to the program to discuss his March 26, 2012 Space Review article, “Why we fall for the hype: contextualizing our thought on space warfare (www.thespacereview.com/article/2052/1).”  This was about a two hour program with a break after the first hour.  Dr. Elhefnawy also has two blogs which may interest you: http://naderelhefnawy.blogspot.com and http://raritania.blogspot.com.  We started our discussion by talking about Dr. Elhefnawy’s interest in the subject, his previous Space Review articles on the subject, and the issue of making accurate predictions.  Nader suggested that there is much hype driving the technology predictions suggesting a possible space warfare outcome that also drive political policy in some instances.  He talked about how technology development in the 19th century had more impact in changing the world than modern era technology.  Our guest cited examples of this throughout our discussion but one example we talked about more so than others dealt with the development of the telegraph.  Dr. Elhefnawy suggested that most of the hyped space weapons systems are not doable in the first place.  Another document he cited about this issue was the Joint Vision 2020 report (www.fs.fed.us/fire/doctrine/genesis_and_evolution/source_materials/joint_vision_2020.pdf).  Nader talked about space weapon systems vulnerabilities and again said that the expectations and hype do not match reality.  Several callers engaged with Nader on cause and reaction, SDI, missile defense, anti-satellite warfare, and the pre-positioning of weapons platforms in space.

In our second segment, I asked our guest how we in the public can best defend ourselves against hype, rhetoric, political agendas, and more given we do not have the expertise to always be able to pick up on the excessive claims and fears.  As you will hear, we remain vulnerable to excessive hype not just on technology and space but on a wide range of things impacting our national and international policy.  In this segment we did talk about technology being developed by China, inquiring if Nader thought this was all hype too.  Nader cited some operational stats to drive home some of his points.  Other issues and game changing technologies that came up in this segment included drones and the launch cost for space access. Nader also talked about the Eureka Paradigm and then he received a question from caller Mike about the European Code of Conduct that we have discussed many times on the show.  Near the end, an interesting comparison was made with aerial warfare from 1914-1918.  In just 7-11 years, aviation had advanced to fighting in the skies in WW1.  More than fifty years after Sputnik, the point was made we are not even at the 1914 equivalent level for space warfare, thus supporting Dr. Elhefnawy’s premise that we fall for the hype in this matter.

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