Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 5-6-14 May 7, 2014Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: Antares, ATK-Orbital merger, Atlas 5, commercial launch customers, commercial space, Crimea, Dragon, Falcon Heavy, government launch customers, ISS, ISS IGA agreement, Lockheed Martin, NASA-Russia space relations, national security, Orion, private sector, Putin, RD-180 engine, reusability., Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Russia, Russian N-33 engine, SLS, solid rocket motors, SpaceX lawsuit against Air Force, U.S. economy, Ukraine, ULA
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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 5-6-14
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Guest: Robert (Bob) Zimmerman. Topics: Russia-NASA space relationship with sanctions, ISS, SpaceX, Air Force & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.
We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the program to discuss the issues facing the U.S. and Russia as a result of the Russian aggression in the Crimea & the Ukraine and in light of U.S. sanctions against Russia for this aggression. We discussed possible interruptions regarding the ISS, ongoing Soyuz flights for American astronauts, continued purchases of the RD-180 engine for the Atlas rocket and the N-33 for the Orbital Antares rocket. We discussed side issues relative to these big picture issues as well. In the first segment of this 2 hour 5 minute show, Bob explained the Russia-NASA space relationship from his perspective. We talked about there being a probable low risk that the parties we would quit cooperating with one another on the ISS but more of our attention in this segment was focused on the Atlas rocket and the use of the RD-180 engine which is a Russian engine. This focus was largely the result of our first phone call from Kelly and as you will hear, Bob and Kelly did not always see eye to eye on the issue and they both seemed to enjoy talking at the same time. For the record, when that happens, as the show host, its nearly impossible to get words or comments to stop them until at least one person stops talking. This is an artifact of the use of a cell phone and the loss of full duplex voice exchange. The issues discussed in this segment regarding the Ukraine and the RD-180 were also carried forward to the second segment as well. Bob thought there might be a silver lining in all this in that it might be waking up important segments here in America and forcing the space industry to stop being so dependent on Russia and building up our commercial space industry. Also discussed in this segment was the Orbital Antares which uses the Russian N-33 engine. The upcoming Orbital and ATK merger was part of our discussion and the possible replacement of the N-33 with an ATK solid rocket motor for the first stage.
In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called in regarding the Ukrainian issue . He also talked about possible U.S. government waivers for the engines. Fast tracking the Dragon came up and then email listeners started asking Bob if Orion could be fast tracked. Bob made his usual comments on SLS and Orion, Lockheed. His favorite word for the night was PORK. Had it been the secret word where you win a hundred dollars every time you mention PORK, Bob would have cleaned up. Kelly emailed us to remind everyone that Putin considers the RD-180 a national treasure and may stop the sales of it anyway. Doug sent in emails asking about Falcon Heavy missions as compared to SLS missions. Bob said Falcon Heavy could do everything SLS could do and cheaper, even if it required multiple launches as he does not think SLS will fly and the flight profile for SLS at 1 launch every 3-4 years is not sustainable. Doug also inquired about reusability, ULA, Boeing, & Lockheed because using it might drop their overall price since the government would likely not pay substantially more than a commercial company for the same launch. I think I will honor Bob the next time he comes on the show with new bumper music, this time from Annie Get Your Gun with the song “Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better sung by Bette Hutton and Howard Keel. All we need is a Space Show listener with talent to substitute a few key words in the song to be relevant to Bob, Doug and others re Falcon Heavy, SpaceX, SLS, Orion, the private sector, government space, etc. For those of you too young to remember Annie Get Your Gun and this famous song, check it out at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0. Tony called about Russian cultural issues and SpaceX, then we got the call of the night in my opinion from Ben in New Jersey. Ben pointed out that “the basic strategic driver for Russia in Crimea is that well over 90% of the fresh water and electricity needed in Crimea comes from the Kherson region of Ukraine. Fresh water supply from Ukraine to Crimea has already been shut down. Crimea has only 30 days of fresh water left. There are rolling blackouts, as the electrical supply is also low. Russia cannot allow this to continue.” Ben continued to offer his analysis which you will find most interesting. By the way, if you are not familiar with the geography of the Ukraine and Crimea, here is a good reference map of the region: http://www.businessinsider.com/map-ukraine-threats-from-russia-2014-5#!J0srL. Ben continued with his analysis and Bob and I picked his brain for his idea of the outcome of the disputes. Both Bob & Ben thought Russia has some natural constraints so they are likely only to take the easier “low hanging fruits” as they will avoid an all out and bloody conflict. At other times during the segment, other listeners suggested that the situation will ease over time and that the space issues will also be eased. Bob said over and over again that he did not believe Russia wanted to lose its commercial space revenue and this would probably be a constraint on his behavior. At different times during both segments, the SpaceX lawsuit was discussed but mostly in the context of the national security issues pertaining to Russia, NASA and our space policy and relationship.
Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. Bob can be reached through his website, http://www.Behindtheblack.com.
Tags: " SpaceX, American space leadership, Chinese Space Program, commercial space, human spaceflight, library archives, NASA, NASA science missions, NewSpace, public/private partnerships, searchable academic research focused database., space education, space policy, STEM, The Space Show, U.S. economy
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Space Show 2000th Program & 12th Anniversary Tribute, Tuesday, 5-7-13
Guests: Dr. John Jurist and Dr. Doug Plata served as co-hosts. Topics: This program honored The Space Show for its more than 2,000 programs and its upcoming 12th anniversary. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.
This Space Show program stands out among all Space Show programs as it honors The Space Show for having passed the 2,000 program mark plus the upcoming 12th anniversary of the program later this month. Dr. Plata and Dr. John Jurist organized this program, much of which was a surprise to me. Dr. Plata set up a special tribute email address, firstname.lastname@example.org and they both contacted guests and listeners for their comments on the program and what they believe The Space Show has meant to them, the space world, and to our space development efforts. Our 1 hour 47 minute program was in two segments but this summary will not be divided by segment as topics overlapped one another. Dr. Jurist asked me lots of questions about how the program started, how it has changed over the years, how the audience has changed, and how I’ve changed. After asking one or two questions and getting my long winded responses, Dr. Plata read some great emails sent in by guests and listeners. This was the format for the entire program. Honestly, I was really surprised by the comments, the statements of support and meaning for The Space Show and by those of you that took time from your busy schedules to say a few words about the program. It was a very humbling experience for me and I am glad it was an audio only program rather a webinar as I was really moved by the outpouring of support for the program and me. Doug did not have time to read all the emails that came in but we intend to post them to the blog and will continue posting them to the blog as they come in. Please use the special email address above but for those of you that use the regular program address, I will copy and post them to the blog as well. John asked lots of questions about the economic impact on space, both here and around the world, about private space, NASA, human spaceflight, and such. I spoke about public/private partnerships, the need, in my opinion, for American leadership in science and space, and why. We also took phone calls from listeners wanting to comment on this special Space Show program. As our program was drawing to a close, John asked me about library quality archives for research with a truly searchable, interactive academic data base. We talked about this, what it might take to do it given the number and average length of Space Show programs. If any of you have actual library, research and multimedia academic catalog search experience, we would like to hear from you to find out about creating a truly researchable, academic Space Show catalog/library. If you have that type of specialized experience, please contact me using email@example.com. Perhaps we will create a funding mechanism to create the library for our archived programs and new programs coming up.
We welcome your comments/questions and more so post them on The Space Show blog. I look forward to many more years with The Space Show, to continuing to provide a civil and credible forum for the discussion of all perspectives and points of view, and to give a voice to many of you that have much to say but are without a microphone. This program was number 2,004 and as I said on the air, the program would not exist without you the listeners and with you the guests who so freely give of your time to help us all learn more about space, science, and all that we talk about and share on The Space Show. Thank you very much and as I said on the show and as many of you said as well, the next 2,000 shows will be even more valuable to us all than the first 2,000! The Space Show only exists because of you the listeners and you the guests. I never lose sight of that. I never will.
Tribute emails are posted here: Space Show Tribute Emails
Dr. Armen Papazian, Friday, 12-21-12 December 22, 2012Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: " Keipr Ltd., "Space Exploration and Money Mechanics, banking system, cost of money, creating money, crowd sourcing, debt based monetary system, Dr. Armen Papazian, global economy, inflation, International Space Development Hub (ISDHub), LIBOR Rate, money mechanics founded on debt and credit, NASA, Planetary Referendum for Cosmic Awareness, Public Capitalization Notes (PCN), Return on Investment (ROI), scarcity., space development leads to wealth, space investment, space value of money, Time Value of Money, U.S. economy, wealth based monetary system
Dr. Armen Papazian, Friday, 12-21-12
Jim Keravala, Shackleton Energy Co., Friday, 12-14-12 December 15, 2012Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: benefit sharing, capital markets, Cislunar space, energy crisis, Geostationary, global economy, infrastructure investment, insitu resource usage, ISS, ITAR, Jim Keravala, Kessler limits, LEO, Moon, Propellant Depots, public/private partnerships, Shackleton Energy Company, Shackleton Energy timelines, Shackleton industrial astronauts, space debris, space finance, SSP, Surrey Satellite, technology transfer, U.S. economy, water ice at lunar poles
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Jim Keravala, Shackleton Energy Co., Friday, 12-14-12
Brent Sherwood, Tuesday, 7-24-12 July 25, 2012Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: " SpaceX, Apollo Program, Bigelow Aerospace, Brent Sherwood, Elon Musk, Explore Mars, Global Space Exploration Conference (GLEX), human spaceflight (HSF), insitu resource usage, Jet Propulsion Lab (JPL), life on Mars, lunar settlement, Mars settlement, Mars technology challenges, Martian sample return mission., NASA, NASA budget, NASA goals, Near Earth Objects (NEO), Planetary Defense, rare Earth elements, space habitation, Space Solar Power (SSP), space tourism, space vision, U.S. economy, value proposition
Brent Sherwood, Tuesday, 7-24-12
Guest: Brent Sherwood. Topics: Human spaceflight to Mars: Is it on the path or a distraction? You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Brent Sherwood back to the show to discuss his GLEX paper and ideas regarding human spaceflight (HSF), Mars, and alternative NASA goals/missions regarding HSF. His GLEX paper, “Mars-On the Path or in the Way” is posted on The Space Show blog following this program summary. Please read & review his paper as it contains far more detail regarding his proposal, analysis and his conclusion than what we were able to discuss during our program. In our first segment, Mr. Sherwood provided us with the background and context for his having written this paper and for his conclusion that HSF to Mars is not the right path. He then outlined alternative paths for HSF missions that he believes can better “regain the cultural centrality of human space flight and grow by attracting private capital.” Our guest talked about the value proposition of a HSF mission to Mars, plus the value proposition of the alternatives he describes in his paper & on this program. The value proposition is understood to refer to the value received by sending humans to Mars (or the alternative HSF missions) as compared to the value of the mission costs, the opportunity costs, risks, etc. Mr. Sherwood assesses the value proposition for all of his alternative HSF proposals which include the Explore Mars mission, lunar settlement, space passenger travel, and SSP. For most of this initial segment, Brent outlined his ideas and explained why he has concluded that HSF to Mars does not measure up as a value promise & why SSP is his first choice. We began taking listener email questions and phone calls after he summarized his position & as you can imagine, most all the listener questions/comments were of the challenging nature to his conclusion that HSF to Mars was not in the best interest of our space program. I urge you read his paper and to pay attention to the technical, cost, time line, and historical information shared with us by our guest.
In the second segment of this nearly two hour program, Brent took questions and expanded more as to why he supports other options than HSF to Mars. He also explained why he is calling for a debate on this issue within the space community. At the start of this segment, I asked him if he thought discovering life on Mars would change his opinion and the value proposition. He said no but did say it would expedite the Martian sample return mission, but would not alter the variables & unknowns involved in the magnitude of technology challenges needing resolution before sending humans safely to and from Mars. Toward the end of our discussion, I asked how he might move forward to implement the industry debate he has called for on this show & in his paper. Suggestions on how to do this are wanted so if you have any, post them on the blog.
Brent would like your feedback so after listening to this program and reading his paper, please post comments/questions on the blog. You can email Brent Sherwood by sending your note to me & I will forward it to him.
Brent Sherwood’s GLEX Paper:
Wes Oleszewski, Sunday, 12-11-11 December 11, 2011Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: " Aero News Network, Ares 1, CCDEV., civility, commercial space, Congress, congressional hearings on space, Constellation, Cots, Falcon 9. , heavy lift, human spaceflight (HSF), Klyde Morris, Mars manned mission, NASA, NASA budget, NewSpace, OMB, SLS, space advocacy, Space Shuttle, Space X, SRBs, STEM education, U.S. economy, U.S. Spaceflight: Commercial Versus Federal., Wes Oleszewski
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Wes Oleszewski, Sunday, 12-11-11
Guest: Wes Oleszewski. Topics: Commercial versus government launch vehicles, space policy, civility. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed back Wes Oleszewski to the show to discuss space policy, commercial as compared to government launch vehicles and much more. Follow his space cartoon Klyde Morris at www.klydemorris.com. You can also read the Aero-News article we discussed, “U.S. Spaceflight: Commercial Versus Federal at www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=b3a012c0-812b-46d7-b58c-fb8959bd3509. Our first segment was about 70 minutes out of this 2.5 hour show. We talked about the lack of civility in the space advocacy/enthusiast community as well as the Kool-Aid and lack of realism in some parts of the advocacy/enthusiast organizations. This applied to space fans as well. This discussion soon gave way to the SLS topic. Our guest was supportive of it but got several listener questions stating why so many objected to it. We talked about its lack of a mission but Wes did define its mission as a preliminary mission in that it was being built for beyond low Earth orbit (BLEO) with the rest to be decided later. I asked our guests about the likelihood of it being built given the track record of NASA and Congress plus OMB in canceling these projects. Wes then talked about the roles of Congress and OMB and our space budget. This brought us to our national spending and budget crisis and the space program in general Other listeners phoned in and emailed us citing the NewSpace perspective on SLS. Don’t miss what Wes had to say about this. Next, Space X came up as did the process of taking government money and how that might separate a new “commercial” company from other aerospace contractors. Marshall called us about risk and demo flights, and then we got into a detailed discussion of thrust oscillation (TO) for the Ares 1. We talked about some advocates making ATK into a villain and Space X and other new companies into saints. I had much to say about ATK as being evil and Dr. Jurist called in to again tell what happened when he did real due diligence with ATK on the TO issue. All three of us were very clear and definite in saying the attacks on ATK and other proven companies were unwarranted. In our second long segment, Wes said we should not have retired the shuttle. We talked about Mars missions and the origins of the MRI medical device. Atlanta John called in to be supportive of SLS and its mission. Jim sent in an email explaining why many are supportive of heavy lift but not supportive of SLS. We talked about the lack of public awareness regarding space matters. I then got off on one of my rants about the value of space which took us to STEM education. We again returned to his theme that we in the advocacy/enthusiast community should be far more united. When asked about individual organization goals such as the Moon, Mars, the frontier, etc, Wes clearly recommended we subordinate these interests to the overall good of speaking with a untied voice. For his concluding Pearls of Wisdom, he cautioned us against being space groupies so to speak or running with the cyber pack. We should avoid group think. He said space was a team effort requiring all of us to be involved in supporting the team. If you have questions/comments for Wes, please post them on the blog URL above.