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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 5-20-15 May 21, 2015

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 5-20-15

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Guests: John Batchelor, William (Bill) Harwood, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Air Force X37-B, ULA, SpaceX & more. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed back William (Bill) Harwood, CBS Space News Reporter, to update us on the X37-B Air Force launch by ULA on an Atlas 5, the 10 cubesats that were on board, and the Planetary Society LightSail mission which was also launched on the same Atlas 5 rocket. Bill talked about the secrecy of the X37-B project, the cubesats, and the solar sails which make up the LightSail mission. We then talked about SpaceX and their recent pad abort test, the progress being made on the spaceport work at Boca Chica near Brownsville, TX. Other topics included the Dragon capsule taking cargo to and from the ISS plus the differences in the cargo Dragon and the human Dragon once it starts operations.

 

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15 May 20, 2015

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15

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Guest:  Dr. Eligar Sadeh.  Topic:  Public Private Partnerships for U.S. space launch systems, cis lunar development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Eligar Sadeh back to the show to discuss his recent Astropolitics published article, “Report: Public Private Partnerships and the Development of Space Launch Systems in the United States.”  You can find this report on The Space Show blog for this particular program. During the first segment of our 92 minute program, Dr. Sadeh introduced us to the topic and the Report subjects which you can read on TSS blog.  He addressed the traditional aerospace contracting model, the problem with cost overruns which hurt the traditional model and some of the issues with fixed price contracts, especially with technology and commercial opportunities.  We talked about risk reward and he cited SpaceX and Orbital Sciences as examples of the success of the private public partnership type of arrangement.  In addition, Eligar suggested that such partnerships were supportive of developing programs such as space transportation services.  Other topics in the first segment included SLS, National Security Space, big science programs, planetary missions, and others that still use the traditional model.  Our guest introduced us to the Better Buying Power approach which he referenced several times during the show.  Tim called from Huntsville to talk about risk, profits, and cubesats.  Eligar then went into some detail about the competitive launch environment, specifically for national security payloads and how that is now changing and opening up.  Jake emailed us to inquire if Congress was fully on board with these new public private partnerships.  Jennifer wanted to know how international participation might change the public private partnership relationship.  Next, I asked Eligar to explain the Acquisition Death Spiral which was in Fig. 4 of his Report paper.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth was our first caller & he wanted to address the risk in a fixed price contract.  John and Eligar had an interesting discussion on controlling costs and risks so don’t miss it.  Later, I asked Eligar to explain the New Entrants Certification Guide (NECG) which was issued in 2011.  This document provides the guidelines for the competitive launch environment for national security and other launch competitors.  Our next caller, Doug, wanted to talk about public private partnerships beyond LEO, specifically the Moon.  Eligar talked with Doug about leveraging assets for the private sector, citing the ISS and a few of the commercial users as examples.  Both Doug and Eligar had a very interesting and comprehensive discussion on this topic which considered cislunar transportation, a lunar hab, possible commercial incentives to drive commercial involvement, and more.  Policy and leadership were part of this discussion as was the fact that there currently is no lunar hab, Lunar Cots, or cislunar transportation policy nor is one being considered.  After the discussion with Eligar ended, we used the balance of our time to discuss the likelihood of a fast moving lunar based Chinese space program influencing the US to fast track developing a lunar hab and cislunar transportation.  Prior to our discussion ending, I asked Eligar how listeners could get copies of the journal Astropolitics as Eligar is the editor for it.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can each Dr. Sadeh through me or his email address on his Report on the blog.

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Dr. Doug Plata, Monday, 5-11-15 May 12, 2015

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Dr. Doug Plata, Monday, 5-11-15

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Guest:  Dr. Doug Plata.  Topics: Return to the Moon, Space Access Society & relevant, topical space news & information.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dr. Doug Plata back to the show to discuss his Return to the Moon (RTM) segment within the Space Access Society (SAS) meeting last week in Phoenix, plus space policy and other topical issues.  Due to a server glitch and phone line issues in connecting with Doug, this 100 minute show does not have a break as we took our breaks to reconnect to the server and Doug.  As we started out our discussion, Doug gave a shout out to Space Access and to the founder of it, Henry Vanderbilt.  Doug then turned his attention to his Return to the Moon conference within the Space Access Society conference. Doug also provided us with his specific definition for Lunar Cots.   He mentioned the key speakers including Jeff Greason, Jim Muncy, Erik Seedhouse, and Dave Masten.  He summarized each of their presentations, plus he mentioned the SAS lead in speaker to his segment, Dennis Stone of NASA JSC, and the speaker after the RTM segment, Bruce Pittman.  Doug said both speakers were so on topic that in reality they could have easily been part of the RTM segment.  Doug discussed lunar lander options, powering rovers on the lunar surface, especially after taking a call from Jon in New Jersey.  He went into some detail on the presentations within the RTM segment.  BJohn in Sweden asked several quality questions via email so pay attention to them when I read them on air.  Space policy and politics came u as Doug was concerned that a NASA RTM effort might be part of a larger international effort, not a public private partnership effort and it would result in footprints on the Moon all over again without sustainability.  Near the end of the program, he discussed this with Dr. Lurio who called in to raise issues around Doug’s comments & concern.  Doug also reported on the rest of SAS including the Virgin Galactic talk/update.  Again, I apologize for the streaming and phone line issues early in this show.

 

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Dr. John Jurist Webinar, Sunday, 4-26-15 April 25, 2015

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                Dr. John Jurist Webinar, Sunday, 4-26-15

Selecting The Rocket Motor, Fuel, & Trade To Optimize The Mission

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Guest:  Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  Choices and consideration in configuring launch systems.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

Welcome to this two hour webinar regarding the choices and considerations that can be made in designing and configuring launch systems.  TO VIEW THE WEBINAR VERSION OFTHIS PROGRAM, GO TO https://vimeo.com/126223310.   Note that on the blog for this program are two Power Point presentations for your use.  Dr. Jurist referred to both of them during the webinar, especially the presentation titled “Choices: Some Considerations in Configuring Launch Systems.”  I urge you to follow along with them during the webinar.  During the first segment, Dr. Jurist explained the target market for the webinar and his two presentations.  He then talked about how hard it was to go to Mars and do other missions.  Then he got to the point by saying in designing or configuring the launch system for a mission, you started with the payload requirements which then provide additional constraints once the payload has been defined.  He also talked about the application of the basic rocket equation and explained the importance of exhaust velocity, the Delta-v, and the mass ratio.  Listeners started asking questions so two stage compared to single stage was discussed.  John pointed to the Choices presentation, slide 8.  He talked about propellant and pressures, both in a pressure fed system and with a turbo pump system.  Another listener asked about solids versus liquids, then Marshall called to talk about rocket g forces.  Dr. Jurist talked about designing the rocket envelope environment to the payload specifications.  He then brought in and discussed the vibration envelope.  Helen asked how things would be different with a human payload rather than a satellite or cargo.  Reliability was a big concern.  Near the end of the segment, Dr. Jurist talked about payload mass in Leo and BLEO.  Doug inquired about the gravity loss during the launch, then the segment ended talking about heavy lift, solids and proportional cost factors for SRBs.

 

In the second segment,  Penny asked how the variable that had been discussed would change were one launch from the Moon or Mars.  Adrian emailed in about the NERVA rocket and nuclear propulsion.  Dr. Jurist used the German V2 as an example of launching from the Moon.  Specific impulse and exhaust velocity came up again, then the focus turned to rocket motor cooling systems.  Questions continued coming in asking about 3D printing of rocket motor parts to lower the cost and the use of hybrid rocket fuels with their advantages and disadvantages.  Regulatory issues came up in this segment as did political issues, plus our guest got a question about amateur rocketry.  A listener asked about environmental concerns over rocket fuel . Dr. Jurist directed the audience to the Choice presentation, slide 22, and talked about ways to possibly shed some weight such as dumping the payload shroud.  Near the end, John got questions about the Falcon Heavy, Doug called in with questions about lunar lander economics and more.  In closing, Dr. Jurist said “the fundamental theme of the presentation was the many variables that come into play in designing or configuring a space launch system, how the many variables are inter-related, and how every decision in the process constrains or narrows the remaining options.”

 

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 4-15-15 April 16, 2015

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 4-15-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2454-BWB-2015-04-15.mp3

Special Guest:  Rand Simberg

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Guests: John Batchelor, Rand Simberg, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Space X Falcon 9 launch & landing attempt plus ULA Vulcan rocket. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed back Rand Simberg to discuss the recent Falcon 9 launch and barge landing attempt of the Falcon 9 first stage. In addition to discussing these events, we talked about the recent SpaceX statements about trying to land the first stage on land at either the Cape or Vandenberg. Rand talked about what would be needed to do that. Next, we talked about the recent press conference and release of information by ULA regarding their Vulcan rocket project and their plans to recover the first stage rocket motor. Rand also had much to say about the CEO at ULA and the different direction the company seems to be taking.

 

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15 April 15, 2015

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2453-BWB-2015-04-14.mp3

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Guest: Rand Simberg. Topics: SpaceX, ULA, Mars, space policy, Moon N=Mars debate and much more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rand Simberg to the program. During the first segment of our 100 minute program, Rand discussed the Falcon 9 launch and barge landing attempt of the first stage. Before he finished his discussion, Dr. Lurio called in and joined in on the speculation as to why the landing was unsuccessful. Both Rand and Charles thought it might be wind but as you will hear, that was just their opinion. Next, the two of them turned to the ULA announcement about the Vulcan rocket and their plans to recover in air from a supersonic parachute using a helicopter. They want to recover the rocket’s main engine. This discussion between Charles and Rand dominated the first segment of the program. Near the end of the first segment, I asked Rand about the ARM and it being redirected to Mars and Phobos. Rand had much to say about this so don’t miss it.

In the second segment, in response to earlier comments made by Rand in the first segment, Sally sent in a note asking if the next NASA administrator might make a difference and actually matter. Again, don’t miss what Rand had to say about this plus bipartisanship and the work of Congressman Dana Rohrabacher who wants to change the our space policy to one of having the main purpose to settle space. Rand also said he would personally like to “ban” the phrase space exploration. Listen to his explanation on this point. Rand was asked about the Moon-Mars debate which he thought was absurd given that the issue was not about destinations but getting the needed infrastructure in space so one can go anywhere. Without the infrastructure, even a gravity lab, talking destinations makes no sense. Due to a few listener questions, Rand also had some choice comments for Mars One. Another listener asked Rand what parts of the commercial space industry impressed him the most. This led to a discussion about suborbital flight and markets. Becky asked him about his Transterrestrial blog (http://www.transterrestrial.com) and the non-space portion of it, I asked him about military space and then Tim called to talk about affordable small sat launches and to inquire if we were embarking on a space race over low cost launch opportunities that may be emerging. Rand also talked about the upcoming Space Access Society meeting and the talk he plans to give at the event. Rhonda in Petaluma asked Rand what caused his transition from traditional aerospace to NewSpace. Don’t miss this, it is really interesting.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Rand through his blog or me.

Marcia Smith, Friday, 3-13-15 March 14, 2015

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Marcia Smith, Friday, 3-13-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2433-BWB-2015-03-13.mp3

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Guest:  Marcia Smith.  Topics:  NASA budgets and their process, specific NASA programs, U.S. congress and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Marcia Smith back to the program to discuss the proposed NASA FY 16 budget and process, sequestration, specific NASA projects and more.  During our one segment 69 minute discussion, Ms. Smith started out by stating that the proposed 2016 FY NASA budget was bigger than the 2015 NASA budget by about $500 million!  Ms. Smith continued saying the trend was upward with continued strong support for SLS, Orion, and even Europa.  Also, NASA remains largely bipartisan in its congressional support.  I asked our guest about the coming sequestration for 2016-2021 and here, uncertainty prevails.  We also learned that there would be more flexibility for targeted sequestration cuts than there were the first time.  Sequestration has a focus towards two categories, security and non-security projects and expenditures.  Bob in Tucson sent in our first email to inquire about a possible “war” within the NASA planetary science and human spaceflight directorates.  A question came in regarding congressional motivators with a focus on SLS motivators.  Among the SLS motivators mentioned by our guest were national prestige, global leadership, preserving and growing our industrial base, and keeping people employed.  Jerry emailed in asking about NASA educational outreach and support in the proposed FY 16 budget.  Our first caller was Michael Listner who wanted to expand on earlier comments about the private sector and NASA, specifically government programs.  Marcia and Michael had an interesting discussion focusing on these issues.  Both cited examples including ULA, the EELV program, and the concept of “skin in the game plus the opportunity for a private sector company to fail and maybe needing a government bailout if all our eggs were in that one private sector basket. The new Lockheed Jupiter commercial cargo space tug program was mentioned and Michael said it might be useful for removal of some space debris.  The subject of building LEO infrastructure came up multiple times during our discussion, especially the issue of who or what entity would pay for its development. Government or the private sector?  BJohn asked Marcia email questions about reusability thus providing NASA with more “bang for the buck” so to speak.  I asked Marcia several questions about the discretionary part of our budget, we talked more about the Europa mission and the best way to influence congressional space policy makers.  Our guest had some very interesting things to say about this so don’t miss the discussion.  Near the end of the program, I asked if there was any serious effort to move to ten year funding for space and other very long projects given the likelihood of a program not lasting ten years due to congressional changes and program cuts.  Marcia did mention that the shuttle and ISS programs survived so it was possible for a program to last a long time. She also did not think there would be ten year funding as congress would not give up its continue oversight responsibilities for such a long term obligation.  Peter in San Diego asked about the 2016 elections and if we were likely to see a radical shift in space policy.  Donald in Los Angeles asked if the one party congress would get the budget done or if we were likely to see a CR at the end of September.  BJohn sent in another email asking about possible congressional motivators to be even more supportive of space than they have been given their $500 million budget increase.  Beverly asked Marcia about international cooperation with space projects.  Marcia said she was a strong supporter of international cooperation.  She also provided us with a few of her excellent reasons for supporting international cooperation.  Before the program ended, we came back to the issue of LEO infrastructure and cislunar development.  Given the private sector’s reluctance to invest in these areas so far, a natural conclusion would be that the private or commercial markets are not yet developed.

Please post your comments on TSS blog above.  Visit Marcia’s site, www.spacepolicyonline.com for the latest in space new and policy developments.  You can reach Ms. Smith through her website or me.

 

John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 1-28-15 January 30, 2015

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 1-28-15

Guest:  Michael Listner

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2403-BWB-2015-01-28.mp3

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Guests: John Batchelor, Michael Listner, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: We discussed the settlement in the SpaceX vs. USAF block buy litigation.. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you.

John Batchelor and I welcomed Michael Listner, ATTY, back to the show to discuss the recently announced settlement in the SpaceX vs. USAF litigation around the block buy, SpaceX certification, etc. Michael took us through the origins of the law suit filed last year by SpaceX, the various motions to dismiss that were filed and the eventual settlement talks by both parties and the settlement reached about a week ago. Michael pointed out that nothing changed regarding the existing block buy of 36 core sole source contract buys awarded to ULA. The settlement did arrange for assistance to SpaceX to earn certification and for future bidding. Michael also provided us with his opinion as to a possible winner in the litigation or was there no winner. See what you think.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog. You can email Mr. Batchelor or Michael Listner through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

 

 

Michael Listner, Andrew Rush, Monday, 1-12-15 January 13, 2015

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Michael Listner, Andrew Rush, Monday, 1-12-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2392-BWB-2015-01-12.mp3

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Guests:  Michael Listner, Andrew Rush.  Topics:  The legal news and proceedings regarding SpaceX challenges to the Blue Origin Sea Landing Patent & Air Force certification delays for SpaceX & SpaceX litigation in the block buy matter.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed attorneys Michael Listner and Andrew Rush to the program to go behind the scenes to discuss the Blue Origin Sea Landing Patent which SpaceX is challenging given its goal of landing its first stage on a barge.  We also discussed the Air Force delaying SpaceX certification which may impact SpaceX bidding on the upcoming NRO launch contract & the SpaceX litigation challenging the block buy.  Note that Andrew Rush is a patent attorney so he led the discussion regarding the Blue patent in the first segment of our program.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 45 minute program, Michael and Andrew discussed the Blue Origin Sea Landing patent and the SpaceX challenge to it.  The discussion included some important facts and basics about U.S. and international patent law and  as you will hear, it can be quite different, along with the patent courts, than U.S. civil law.  Andrew went into detail about how broad the Sea Landing Patent is, the areas for challenge, the SpaceX position and more.  We also talked infringement penalties, the likelihood of settlement negotiations, and our guests even gave us their opinion as to the probable outcome of the challenge to the Blue Origin patent.  It is an excellent discussion of a complex issue of interest to all of us listening to this program.

In the second segment, Michael spent most of the time explaining the Air Force delay in SpaceX certification for national security and DOD satellite launches.  He also explained how this delay might adversely impact the ability of SpaceX to bid on the upcoming NRO launch contract.  Michael and Andrew discussed the latest news regarding the SpaceX litigation against the Air Force regarding the block buy, the motions that have been filed so far, what happens to those numerous motions, and the possible outcome for this litigation.  For both segments, listeners asked several questions pertaining to either the Blue patent or the SpaceX certification and block buy matter.

Please post your questions/comments on TSS blog above.  You can reach either guest through me. Andrew also has a blog you might want to follow, http://ipinspace.com.

Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14 December 2, 2014

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14

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Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  NASA ARM Mission, RTM, HSF to Mars, solar system economic development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com . Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We did have a few audio problems as Dennis used a cell phone and we lost the connection a few times due to storms across N. California.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 93 minute discussion. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING DRIVE.  WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPACE SHOW AND ITS PROGRAMMING EFFORT.  During our first segment, Dennis talked about his recent blog article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com, To ARM or Not To ARM: Is That Really Our Question.  I urge you to download and read this article as Dennis refers to it many times over during our discussion.  He started out with an analysis of what was thought to be the NASA ARM mission as compared to what it has become today.  As you will hear, he was supportive of the initial mission, not the current evolved mission.  He explained why the shift in his position which was based on making the ARM mission a minimalist type mission.  He explained the differences in detail.  Budget reasons were cited as a primary reason for the mission being downgraded.  Dennis offered us an historical analysis & perspective of the NASA budget.  SLS, Falcon Heavy, & lots of space policy made it to this segment.  Dennis talked about solar electric propulsion for ARM, then he was asked about the likelihood of the next president initiating an RTM program.  Doug emailed about a COTS like program with ULA & Masten for a lunar lander.  Dennis had much to say about a lunar lander dating back to the Gemini era up to new, lower cost ideas coming from the commercial space industry.

In the second segment, Dennis continued talking about the upcoming new Congress and what might emerge as a different type program with a different budget though he thought we were more likely to entertain the status quo.  Several listeners wanted to know if it would boil down to the Moon vs. ARM or the Moon vs. Mars.  Don’t miss his response to these questions.  Our guest suggested we all watch the “Wanderers” video which you can see at http://vimeo.com/108650530.  Dennis mentioned that we did not need a government program as such for space but he did speak in favor of public/private partnerships.  We spoke much about the need for space and lunar infrastructure.  Sally asked him to explain the difference with the economic development of the solar system and space settlement.  He said space settlement was very much a part of a space economic development effort.  In response to another set of listener questions, Dennis talked about the 90-10 rule when has about robots in space as compared to astronauts.  Doug called to talk about investment capital for commercial space plus other issues.  I then asked Dennis if Lunar Cots or industrialization was included in solar system economic development and if so, at what stage?  Kirk emailed in a question challenging the role played by offering prizes.  Don’t miss what Dennis had to say in response to Kirk’s email.  Before we ended the program, Dennis mentioned his latest blog article about Apollo betrayed by the very people who made the Apollo mission happen.  You can read this article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Dennis through his blog and articles or through me.

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