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Dr. Doug Plata, Monday, 6-30-14 July 1, 2014

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Dr. Doug Plata, Monday, 6-30-14

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Guest:  Dr. Doug Plata.  Topics:  Lunar Cots & cislunar space development, policy, Mars, & much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Doug Plata for this two hour two minute discussion.  NOTE THAT THREE SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTS FROM DOUG WILL BE UPLOADED TO THE BLOG.  During the first segment, Doug introduced us to the topics he discussed at the recent ISDC conference in Los Angeles.  He talked about SpaceX and both the Falcon 9 & Heavy, Lunar ice, hollow ice, a concept he calls Moon for Mars, and more.  He also suggested that the Moon was not necessary for a Mars mission.  Additionally, while he certainly support a return to the Moon, he does not believe bringing back the VSE and Constellation is the way to do it.  I asked him how he got is interest in and start in space advocacy about 4 years ago.  Doug told us an interesting story, including how he was influenced by the LCROSS mission.  Michael Listner called to ask Doug about the WHY for the missions & projects he was advocating.  This was an interesting discussion though Michael got cut off due to a glitch at his end.  Tony wanted to know if Doug might be considering a start-up around his ideas in the near future.  Other first segment topics included ISRU, what makes space sustainable, and gaining the public interest and trust.  I asked him what among his ISDC topics was the least popular.  Listen for the answer.

In the second segment, Doug said people could find the lunar cots petition at http://www.lunarcots.com.  Doug addressed a question submitted by Tony regarding the use of water for radiation shielding.  Doug corrected some misunderstandings from his previous comment & went through the calculations in support of his conclusions.  We talked about a recent Mars One announcement for payloads for their planned 2018 mission.  Doug talked lunar cots, telerobotics, & benefits which he had sent me on an earlier show.  It is the three benefits documents that I will upload to the blog.  Doug had more to say on LCROSS & its impact on him.  He also told us about his newly made NASA HQ and commercial space contacts regarding lunar cots and cislunar.  As the program was ending, he talked about doing a special Flagstaff conference next year with a media event at nearby Meteor Crater.  Several times during our discussion, Doug cited Hops Blog for lunar and Mars lander/hopper ideas.  See http://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.com.

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David Meerman Scott & Richard Jurek, Friday, 4-18-14 April 19, 2014

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David Meerman Scott & Richard Jurek, Friday, 4-18-14

“Marketing The Moon:  The Selling of the Apollo Lunar Program”

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Guests:  David Steerman Scott, Richard Jurek.  Topic:  Mr. Scott & Mr. Jurek’s top new book, “Marketing the Moon:  The Selling of the Apollo Lunar Program.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed David Steerman Scott & Richard Jurek to the show to discuss their excellent new book, “Marketing the Moon:  The Selling of the Apollo Lunar Program” (www.marketingthemoon.com). This was a 75 minute show without a break.  We started out talking about how the two authors met & decided to collaborate in writing this book.  As you will hear, both are marketing experts and when they met they wondered why the marketing side of the Apollo program had not been written about so they decided to do it.  Not only is their book & this discussion about lessons learned, possible extrapolation points, & seldom if never heard history, it offers answers to many questions asked of guests & listeners on TSS but this time we got some answers that make sense.  Our guests talked about the massive NASA PR & outreach campaign launched to sell the early space program, plus the work the contractors did on their own with media kits, training the press how to handle the science/engineering to be able to explain it to us & more.  We talked about the time period, the U.S. at the time of Apollo, television then and now as well as newspapers & print media then & now.  Our guests also talked about the distribution today for PR & information which is radically different from the days of Apollo.  Both our guests described important attributes for a space program to work.  Some of these included a quest story, defined mission goals, targeted goals & timelines, the need to avoid mission design creep, the need for a global imperative, & a WHY for the mission that drives the mission.  Examples were provided including the Red Bull Stratos jump which did all of the above & the VSE under President Bush which came up lacking.  Listeners asked lots of email questions including asking if a mission could sell itself with demonstrated engineering, technology, and science.  The answer was doubtful but listen to what our guests had to say about this issue.  We talked about missed opportunities over time as great opportunities for audacious and daring projects seldom come around.  They talked about a missed opportunity at the time of 9/11 by going for the Iraq War instead of an Apollo like world game changing program, even one not involved with space.  Later in our discussion, our guests provided us with one of the best reasons for going back to the Moon & doing space programs, especially for human spaceflight. I’m referring to Apollo changing the world forever for the best by spawning youngsters to create Microsoft, Apple, Intel, etc.   These companies & others,  while not directly space companies, used space technology and the energy from that era to build and design revolutionary systems, products, & services that nobody could even come close to predicting at the time.  Don’t miss this important part of our discussion.

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Classroom: Dr. Paul Spudis, Dr. Jim Vedda, Friday, 10-19-12 October 20, 2012

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Classroom: Dr. Paul Spudis, Dr. Jim Vedda, Friday, 10-19-12

Cislunar Space Development

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1876-BWB-2012-10-19.mp3

Guests: CLASSROOM:  Dr. Paul Spudis, Dr. Jim Vedda.  Topics:  Cislunar space development and economics.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blogs, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com and the Classroom blog, http://spaceshowclassroom.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work, but must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  For this Classroom Space Show two hour program, we welcomed Dr. Paul Spudis and Dr. Jim Vedda for a comprehensive discussion on the importance of undertaking Cislunar space development as a major focus of U.S. space policy.  Our program was in two equal segments but since our topics crossed segments, our summary will reflect the entire program, not each segment.  Also, at the end of this summary, I have listed several relevant URLs for cislunar space development and our guests.  If you want more information on the subject, I suggest you visit the recommended websites and blogs.  Our guests described cislunar space for us and did an excellent job in letting us know why it is important to focus on a cislunar space development program.  In the process of addressing this very important issue, we talked about policy, the railroad model, the need for space infrastructure, insitu resource development and understanding, lunar water, lunar ice, lunar polar robotic exploration, the need to learn to live and behave in space, and much more.  Listeners called and asked email questions that drew out both our panel members so that our discussion was sufficiently thorough.  Side issues were discussed such as budget cuts, tight budgets, how to do cislunar space in a belt tightening environment, small businesses and contractors, even sequestration.  Our guests were very clear as to why cislunar development was much more preferable than “space stunt accomplishment” types of programs and projects.  Our guests presented a good case in letting us know why cislunar development is preferable over a humans to Mars mission at this time. Another issue brought up by a listener was to ask about “Plan B” if for some reason there was no water or there was insufficient water/ice on the Moon.  Dr. Spudis explained why that was not likely but both panel members talked about why cislunar development was important to even without sufficient water/ice resources on the Moon. Here are the URLs of interest I mentioned above:  First, Dr. Vedda’s new book, “Becoming Spacefarers: Rescuing America’s Space Program” is at www.amazon.com/Becoming-Spacefarers-James-A-Vedda/dp/1477130918/ref=onegiantlea20.  The Paris conference mentioned by Dr. Spudis is the ASTECH’s “Developing Space” Conference is at www.d-space2012.com. Dr. Spudis websites and blogs can be found at www.spudislunarresources.com; www.spudislunarresources.com/blog; http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon.  His book, “Blogging the Moon” is at www.amazon.com/Blogging-Moon-Paul-D-Spudis/dp/1926837177/ref=onegiantlea20.  Other related websites of interest include www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=13404; www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=19999; www.spudislunarresources.com/Papers/The%20Vision%20and%20the%20Mission.pdf.; www.cislunarnext.org.

Please post your comments/questions on the blogs above.  If you want to contact either Dr. Vedda or Dr. Spudis, you can do so through me.