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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14 October 21, 2014

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2340-BWB-2014-10-20.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.  Topics:  A wide ranging discussion on current space topics including the Moon, ARM, Mars, and policy.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Paul Spudis back to the program for a wide ranging discussion on space topics plus we take a look at some of his recent blog posts.  You can follow his blog posts at www.spudislunarresources.com/blog and http://www.airspacemag.com/tag/once-and-future-moon/?no-cache&no-ist.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 52 minute program, Dr. Spudis talked about his blog article for a lunar tour, “A Lunar Road Trip” (www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/a-lunar-road-trip).  We talked with Paul about ways in which a future lunar tourist could actually move around on the Moon to see the places Paul described in his article.   The two methods discussed were hopping and using a vehicle on the order of the Lunar Winnebago concept.  The first listener question asked Dr. Spudis about the U.S. private sector doing lunar missions instead of the government.  He was also asked about the private lunar programs such as Golden Spike and others.  He spoke to some degree about the Google Lunar XPrize.  Paul also addressed the Chinese lunar program, then we talked about cislunar space and its economic development.  The ARM came up and Dr. Spudis called it a stunt.  He suggested it would be an Orion mission because there was no place to send Orion other than ARM.  He mentioned Inspiration Mars which he said was the ultimate stunt and ahead of its time.  In terms of changes in our space policy, he did not see any changes happening soon.  Next up was the NRC Pathways HSF Study which we have discussed on many Space Show program.  He said they asked and answered the wrong questions.  See what you think after hearing his comments.  Another topic that came up dealt with prizes.  He said they had not produced the desired outcome and cited evidence for it  saying prizes were overstated in terms of their impact on space development.  BJohn sent in several email questions including asking about Moon-Mars differences wondering why the Moon would be a good training place for HSF to Mars.  As the segment ended, we talked about water on the Moon and if it was now confirmed.

In the second segment, we honored James Charles Floyd on his 100th birthday for his role in the Canadian Avro Aero project and more.  BJohn asked about X37 B & then Dr. Spudis was asked about his blog post regarding recent government sponsored spaceflight studies and panels (“Quinquennial Follies” at http://www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/quinquennial-follies).  I asked Paul about space advocacy influence on policy and he told us an interesting story based on his experience regarding lunar space policy.  Don’t miss it.  Listeners asked about our technology readiness today for cislunar development and the building of a lunar outpost.  Our last email question came from Phil in New Brunswick asking about virtual space universities, teaching, and lectures.

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 7-21-13 July 22, 2013

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 7-21-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2053-BWB-2013-07-21.mp3

 

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.  Topics:  Space policy, testifying before congress, asteroid missions, RTM, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Dr. Paul Spudis, Senior Staff Scientist at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, to discuss U.S. civil space policy, testifying before congress, NASA asteroid missions, returning to the Moon, ISRU for both the Moon and Mars, and much more.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 41 minute discussion, Dr. Spudis provided us with an overview of our current civil space program and the history behind how this program developed over the last 50 plus years.  We talked about space visions, destinations, fiscal issues, innovation, & more.  Dr. Spudis also talked about his testimony before the House Science Committee which you can read as well as see on the video on his site, www.spudislunarresources.com.  Many listeners asked questions about providing congressional testimony and what our guest thought of the committee members and their interest in what the invited guests were telling them.  Paul also submitted a human spaceflight statement to the NAS for their human spaceflight study. You can find the links to his submitted paper and the NAS results so far on his website or go to the NAS site directly at www8.nationalacademies.org/aseboutreach/publicviewhumanspaceflight.aspx.    Other topics during this segment included our civil space policy & those making policy, congressional authorizations, SLS & Orion, NASA asteroid missions, & NewSpace.

We started the second segment with a listener call about lunar ISRU and multiple uses for the same lander for the Moon and Mars.  A listener asked Paul to elaborate on why he was not supportive of the NASA asteroid missions which he said were similar to PR stunts.  A listener asked about blame & accountability between Congress and the NASA Administrator.  Don’t miss what our guest had to say about each & their role.  Doug called to talk about cislunar architecture & transportation.  I asked our guest about creating a type of business plan to prioritize the steps needed for implementation to establish the space policy favored by our guest. Don’t miss this discussion.  Another listener asked our guest for his opinions on the Inspiration Mars and Mars One proposed missions.  We also talked about the impact of high quality computer graphics on space policy, the difference in interest and focus from the Apollo era to now, & the importance of space advocacy.

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 8-6-12 August 7, 2012

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 8-6-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1830-BWB-2012-08-06.mp3

Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  Economic Development of the Moon.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dennis Wingo back to the program to discuss his July 16, 2012 blog article and concept, “Changing the Conversation about the Economic Development of the Moon.”  You can find his article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com.  We started our first segment of this nearly two hour program with a shout out to NASA, JPL, & the entire Curiosity team for an outstanding job with landing Curiosity on Mars.  Dennis then pointed out that MSL and Curiosity cost about half of a Nimitz Super Carrier.  Dennis then talked about heavy lift and the fact that modern technology, on orbit fuel depots, orbital dynamics, and ISRU usage all provide reasonable and cost-effective alternatives to the need for heavy lift.  In this discussion, he also included the use of a lunar 3D printer.  Dennis listed several new technologies and applications so don’t miss this section.  Dennis next outlined a plan to eventually have boots on the lunar surface at both poles for water and development.  He would start of with robotics. He noted a preference for the north pole.  We talked about our present day capability to get to either lunar pole.  Doug called in from S. California to talk about telerobotics using telemedicine as an example.  During this discussion, we learned that in the use of robotics, about 90%  represents the robots while 10% represents the people operating, servicing, repairing, and maintaining the robots.
In our second segment, listener Larry asked Dennis about timelines.  Dennis suggested by 2020 we could be back on the Moon.  He broke this down in stages to explain why it would take so long to undertake this mission.  He then said we needed a mindset change to go back to the Moon.  The mindset change enables seeing the Moon first for economic development and then science as a secondary objective.  We talked about the international potential for such a lunar economic mission (private, not government), Another listener asked our guest if a Netscape Moment was essential for developing lunar commerce.  Michael called in to talk about the potential legal & regulatory risks for lunar economic missions.  This too was an interesting & challenging discussion, don’t miss it.  Tim called to ask about the use of space tugs and specific launch vehicles as well as new combinations of rocket fuel. Dennis offered us important closing comments about financing such missions, launch cost issues of concern, and allowing government to dictate our future.  Please post your comments/questions on the blog.
If you want to send an email to Dennis Wingo, you can do so through me & I will forward it to him.

Jeff Krukin, Monday, 2-6-12 February 7, 2012

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Jeff Krukin, Monday, 2-6-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1706-BWB-2012-02-06.mp3

Guest:  Jeff Krukin.  Topics:  Space Vision & Space Policy.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Jeff Krukin back to the program to discuss how we do & should view space.  For more information about Jeff & his space work, please visit www.jeffkrukin.com.  Our discussion started with an evaluation of where we are today with space policy & the toxic nature of politics, including space politics.  Jeff cited some examples of what he meant by toxic political rhetoric.  As we began looking forward, Jeff put forth three perspectives as to the character of space. These three perspectives, if kept in mind, go beyond just thinking of space as a federal program. (1) Space is a mere 62 miles above us, & thus a continuation of our environment; (2) Space can be an extension of the economy , & thus part of our lives; (3) Space is a place of abundant resources, & thus crucial to our survival & prosperity.  You can read his Space Daily article on this subject at www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-04t.html.  I asked Jeff how to realize his three goals & we talked about the media in this country as well as advocacy, especially with politicians.  The suggestion was made to start with local & regional politicians, evolving upwards to politicians on the larger & grander national scale.  Several callers were with us during the first segment suggesting we go from think tank up the ladder to the national representatives. One of our callers suggested a new concept, venture philanthropy.  This proved to be an interesting discussion given the way the existing billionaire space entrepreneurs were characterized in terms of their investment, activity, & as potential role models for others to invest from a philanthropic perspective, not just a business case perspective.  Jeff then talked about the New Space Conference Business Plan Competition for 2012.  If you are interested in it &  possibly competing, visit http://newspacebpc.com. Before the segment ended, an email came in suggesting a Microlaunchers type policy followed by Charles calling us. Don’t miss the Pooley/Microlaunchers discussion.  

In our second segment, Jeff talked about the need for a space transportation infrastructure.  I then asked him how one goes about implementing the policies & ideas we had been discussing for the past hour or so.  The subject of SLS came up & as to be expected, it drove the passions on all sides.  Tim used an ice analogy that Jeff seemed to like. I took the part of a contrarian (I did this often during this interview) regarding the difficult choices for members of Congress in voting against jobs in their district given the economic realties of today. This came up in the first segment too in response to a listener question.  I suggested it might be unrealistic to think congress would vote against jobs in the context of today’s economy as compared to when the U.S. economy was or again becomes strong/robust.  I challenged the NewSpace thinking on what policy was & might be in the best interest of the country as it might not be the NewSpace ideas.  Jeff handled the questions & opinions I threw at him very well & in my opinion, he demonstrated not only civility, but reason, common sense, drive, & open mindedness.  Near the end we talked about some of the ideas Dennis Wingo put forth on his most program, then Jeff left us with a thoughtful set of closing comments. 

 If you have comments/questions for Jeff Krukin, please post them on The Space Show blog URL above.  If you want to contact Jeff, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Open Lines, Sunday, 1-29-12 January 30, 2012

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Open Lines, Sunday, 1-29-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1700-BWB-2012-01-29.mp3

Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Space policy programs of the presidential candidates and more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  Welcome to this 2 hour forty minute Open Lines program. We took one break during the program about 40 minutes into it.  My opening monologue was longer than usual, consuming about half an hour.  I put forth many possible discussion topics but as you will hear on the show, most everyone wanted to talk about the space policy statements by Newt and to a lesser degree Romney.  We held callers to a shorter time on the phone which seemed to work nicely as we had lots of new callers and lots of different input in addition to the Space Show regular listeners/callers.  I will continue holding callers to a shorter time on the phone for future programs based on this experience.  I also put forth some ground rules to avoid partisan politics and to focus only on the space policy of the candidates.  I also made it clear that there would be no character bashing but ideas were fair game.  Most of the discussion regarding Newt’s statement dealt with his having talked about the lunar colony and making it part of the U.S.  Callers kept referencing the Outer Space Treaty (OST) which prohibits territorial claims on celestial bodies.  We talked about property rights and one caller referenced the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 Population Threshold which Newt referenced in his policy comments.  This caller also took us to a discussion of weapons in space, specifically nukes, as part of his comments on the OST.  This led to a discussion and a factual call on why weapons in space are not practical though nobody was advocating weapons in space nor did anyone advocate withdrawing from the OST or modifying it.  As for the Romney comments, some callers had issues with the panel of advisors for Romney and I questioned why DOD was being included in civil and commercial space planning, mission design, etc.  Another caller was physically present at both the Romney and Gingrich meetings so  he gave us a first hand report on what he saw and heard.  Later in the program, a caller referenced some of the gender and microgravity issues raised in the recent show with Dr. Bill Rowe and we talked about the need for a variable gravity research station to answer micro and artificial gravity questions in support of long duration human spaceflight.  While not specifically mentioned by anyone during the discussion, it is important to note that up until the new administration took office, it was national policy for the U.S. to return to the Moon and establish a lunar outpost which would eventually be turned over to commercial interests.  I don’t recall the giggle factor back then but we did talk about the giggle factor which seems to have returned as a result of the Newt comments.  Also, as soon as the program ended, I received a note about an interview by Dr. Jeff Foust on his spacepolitics.com blog with Eric Anderson, one of the key members of the advisory panel on space for Gov. Romney.  You can read this interview at /www.spacepolitics.com/2012/01/29/anderson-romney-would-be-advocate-of-commercial-space.  Again, it came in too late to be mentioned during our program but in my opinion, it is relevant to the OL discussion for today’s Space Show program.  Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per above.  If you want to send a note to any of the callers, do so through me and I will forward it for you if have the email address of the person you want to contact.