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Dr. Madhu Thangalevu, Monday, 8-17-15 August 18, 2015

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Dr. Madhu Thangalevu, Monday, 8-17-15

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Guests: Dr. Madhu Thangavelu; Tihomir Dimitrov (Tisho); Topics: ISU Summer Session, Planetary Defense, the Moon Studio Class. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Madhu Thangavelu to discuss the Planetary Defense Team and their work at the ISU Summer Session which was held this year at Ohio University. About 20 minutes into the show, he was joined by one of the student participants in the session, Tihomir Dimitrov (Tisho). Madhu explained that he gave the team an impossible scenario to solve. The scenario was that a comet was heading toward Earth and would impact us in two yeas. The students had to come up with a mitigation strategy. The first segment of our program talks about the considerations, the plans, & the mitigation means which included directed energy and modified nuclear weapons. Listeners and I pushed both Dr. Thangalevu and Tisho on these two strategies, plus I challenged them on their goal of changing the world by engaging in planetary defense of the Earth, the Moon, and even Mars. I kept asking them why they don’t improve humanity in Africa and the Middle East because as host, I can play the part of the devil’s advocate to challenge their reasoning and thinking. In the end, it seemed that the solution to the problem was based on how much work was done in the time leading up to the discovery of the incoming comet. Our guests also talked about evacuation strategies and making touch decisions for the good of society and the planet but maybe not so good for the city, town, region or people that get hit by the comet. Its an interesting discussion and I am sure all of us would have enjoyed being in this summer session class. You can read the Executive Summary Report for this class at https://isulibrary.isunet.edu/opac/doc_num.php?explnum_id=719. The Final Report can be found at https://isulibrary.isunet.edu/opac/doc_num.php?explnum_id=722.

In the second segment, Madhu talked about his upcoming design studio class with the theme this year of exploring the role of the Moon in our future space activity. He talked about the role of governments in making the Moon part of our future in space as compared to the role of private companies and entrepreneurs. At one point he said the key would be in how we change the way we look at space. When asked by a listener, Dr. Thangalevu clarified that he was talking about the role of the Moon in human space activity, not just robotic missions. Madhu also directed us to his earlier articles in Mars Daily on this subject which you can read here: (1): www.marsdaily.com/reports/The_Moon_or_Mars_Flawed_Debate_False_Choice___Part_One_999.html; (2): www.marsdaily.com/reports/Flawed_Debates_begets_false_choices_beyond_LEO___Part_Two_999.html.

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Dr. Christopher Newman, Friday, 12-5-14 December 6, 2014

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Dr. Christopher Newman, Friday, 12-5-14

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Guest:  Dr. Christopher (Chris) Newman.  Topics:  British space law, policy & space programs.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Chris Newman to the show to discuss British space policy, programs, their space industry and British space law.  During the first segment of our 88 minute program, Dr. Newman talked about space law and the space industry within the UK.  At times we compared British space law with that in the U.S., talked about the British interest in commercial space, space entrepreneurism and British government space as opposed to commercial space within the country.  As you will hear, British space is more about business and returns than government policy.  We also talked about social media and its value with some criticisms and supportive comments from me.  Mike Listner called and we did some comparisons with the British space law perspectives compared to American space law perspectives.  A listener asked if the British were fearful or concerned about the Chinese program and if they thought we might be in a space race with China.  Chris had interesting things to say in response to this question.  Chris talked about the role of the European Space Agency (ESA), competition from SpaceX with the Arianne rockets, and the ISS.  Toward the end of our segment, Alex emailed a question about the impact of our ITAR regulations on the British space, science, and technology industry.

In the second segment, I asked Chris how British citizens influence their government for space policy and matters as compared to what we do in the States.  Chris did explain the British system to us which is quite different , including their budget process.  Later I asked if the British government and people were enthusiastic about space companies, including Skylon with Reaction Engines.  You might be surprised by his response, especially when I asked if he thought the desired Skylon funding was possible.  We also talked proposed British spaceports and the possibility of British regulations on their developing space industry.  Later, George emailed in to ask if various segments of the British government competed for funding similar to what happens with the discretionary items in our budget.  Chris explained the process in more detail but the short answer was no as their budget process is quite different from ours.  Another listener asked more questions about competition in Europe from SpaceX.  Chris had much to say about this.  Other subjects discussed included a guess as to what future space missions will look like from the British perspective, more on the threat from NEOs, the global launch rate and Arianne making unrealistic market share projections, and the militarization and weaponization of space. Near the end, we talked about commercial space balloon/airship  projects like World View.  As for 2015 for British space, Christ told us to be aware of the May elections as that may set the tone for the space debate and programs for the future.  We agreed to follow up with Chris after the election to check on this.

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 1-26-14 January 27, 2014

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 1-26-14

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.    Topics: Space policy, cislunar development, The Moon, Clementine & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Spudis back to the show for this 1 hour 54 minute wide ranging discussion on space policy, lunar activities, the Chinese space program, SLS, weapons in space, military space, and more.  In our first segment, Dr. Spudis started with a report on the Chinese lunar lander/rover and said that he was hearing there were problems with it.  Since the Chinese program is not transparent, he said it was hard to get details but even if the mission ended early, it met its goals of a soft landing on the Moon.  He had more to say about the lander, the accomplishments of the Chinese program and some of the real progress by the Chinese, especially from their next to last mission.  Dr. Spudis fielded many email questions and took calls.  Our guest then started talking about the Clementine mission given its been 20 years since this very successful program.  You can read his articles about Clementine on his website (spudislunarresources.com and also his blog, http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon.  He also talked about LCROSS and other recent missions.  Just before the end of the first segment, Marshall phoned in to talk about taxing lunar entrepreneurial ventures. We also talked benefit sharing, global taxation, and commercial incentives.  We closed the segment with Paul talking about the economic and wealth creating potential afforded us all by cislunar development.

In the second segment, he responded to an email question about the Earth-Mars space system having a higher commercial value than cislunar.  Paul explained in some detail why that was not so & why cislunar is far greater in economic value and wealth potential.  Paul then talked about Hugh Dryden & his accomplishments, then renaming the Dryden NASA facility after Neil Armstrong.  Our next subject was American Exceptionalism with Paul blogged about last year.  We then talked about space tourism.  Paul said he was skeptical about it but we just wait and see. I mentioned a new book about Sir Richard Branson & problems with Virgin Galactic by British author Tom Bower.  Here is an article that describes what we talked about:  www.newspacejournal.com/2014/01/26/new-branson-bio-examines-delays-and-other-problems-with-virgin-galactic.  Paul got a question from Phil to describe lunar ice, then SLS John called to agree with Paul’s SLS analysis and more.  Rick was our final emailer asking about the ASRG cancellation and what this means for deep space & long duration missions.  Paul’s concluding comments again supported the wealth & economic potential for cislunar development.

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Dr. Nader Elhefnawy, Friday, 6-8-12 June 8, 2012

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Dr. Nader Elhefnawy, Friday, 6-8-12

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Guest:  Dr. Nader Elhefnawy.  Topics:  Space warfare reality and hype.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dr. Nader Elhefnawy back to the program to discuss his March 26, 2012 Space Review article, “Why we fall for the hype: contextualizing our thought on space warfare (www.thespacereview.com/article/2052/1).”  This was about a two hour program with a break after the first hour.  Dr. Elhefnawy also has two blogs which may interest you: http://naderelhefnawy.blogspot.com and http://raritania.blogspot.com.  We started our discussion by talking about Dr. Elhefnawy’s interest in the subject, his previous Space Review articles on the subject, and the issue of making accurate predictions.  Nader suggested that there is much hype driving the technology predictions suggesting a possible space warfare outcome that also drive political policy in some instances.  He talked about how technology development in the 19th century had more impact in changing the world than modern era technology.  Our guest cited examples of this throughout our discussion but one example we talked about more so than others dealt with the development of the telegraph.  Dr. Elhefnawy suggested that most of the hyped space weapons systems are not doable in the first place.  Another document he cited about this issue was the Joint Vision 2020 report (www.fs.fed.us/fire/doctrine/genesis_and_evolution/source_materials/joint_vision_2020.pdf).  Nader talked about space weapon systems vulnerabilities and again said that the expectations and hype do not match reality.  Several callers engaged with Nader on cause and reaction, SDI, missile defense, anti-satellite warfare, and the pre-positioning of weapons platforms in space.

In our second segment, I asked our guest how we in the public can best defend ourselves against hype, rhetoric, political agendas, and more given we do not have the expertise to always be able to pick up on the excessive claims and fears.  As you will hear, we remain vulnerable to excessive hype not just on technology and space but on a wide range of things impacting our national and international policy.  In this segment we did talk about technology being developed by China, inquiring if Nader thought this was all hype too.  Nader cited some operational stats to drive home some of his points.  Other issues and game changing technologies that came up in this segment included drones and the launch cost for space access. Nader also talked about the Eureka Paradigm and then he received a question from caller Mike about the European Code of Conduct that we have discussed many times on the show.  Near the end, an interesting comparison was made with aerial warfare from 1914-1918.  In just 7-11 years, aviation had advanced to fighting in the skies in WW1.  More than fifty years after Sputnik, the point was made we are not even at the 1914 equivalent level for space warfare, thus supporting Dr. Elhefnawy’s premise that we fall for the hype in this matter.

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John Batchelor “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 2-22-12 February 22, 2012

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John Batchelor “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 2-22-12

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston. Topics:  The 11th Annual California Round robber for policy debate.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. The topics in this 11 minute plus segment focused on the 11th annual high school California Round Robin for policy debate which was held Friday, Feb. 17, 2012 at theCollegePreparatory School inOakland,CA.   I was one of four critics (not judges) asked to participate and advise the debating teams on how realistic their presentations were in terms of what is actually done regarding the subject in the space industry.  The question the debaters focused on asked if theU.S. government should pay for and develop space solar power.  One team took the affirmative.  The other team accepted the need for space solar power but took the position that it should be paid for and developed by the private sector.  High School debate rules were followed.  In the coming weeks the debate audio will be uploaded to a special website for everyone to hear.  When the audio is available, I will modify the archives for this program to include the URL so those of you interested in hearing it can do so.  In addition to critiquing the students, each of the four of us (critics) had an opportunity to address not just the two debate teams but also the 60-70 adults in the room.  We stressed the possibility of understanding, seeing, and valuing space as a possible path for solutions to many of the problems we all face today.  In talking to the students after the debate, they were all open to STEM college programs, space, science, and technology careers.  They were actually excited about the debate, the topic, and their future.  During this segment with John Batchelor, I went into more detail about the actual debate, how they handled the multiple disciplines they talked about including engineering, technology, space issues, beaming issues, business, financial and economic issues. When the debate ended, we took questions from the students and the adults. Some of the questions dealt with space debris, microwave beaming and space weapons, the Outer Space Treaty, space liability issues, and an aging space workforce.  Please post your comments regarding this John Batchelor Show segment on The Space Show Blog.  If you want to email John Batchelor you can do so through me or their respective websites.

Open Lines, Sunday, 1-29-12 January 30, 2012

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Open Lines, Sunday, 1-29-12

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Space policy programs of the presidential candidates and more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  Welcome to this 2 hour forty minute Open Lines program. We took one break during the program about 40 minutes into it.  My opening monologue was longer than usual, consuming about half an hour.  I put forth many possible discussion topics but as you will hear on the show, most everyone wanted to talk about the space policy statements by Newt and to a lesser degree Romney.  We held callers to a shorter time on the phone which seemed to work nicely as we had lots of new callers and lots of different input in addition to the Space Show regular listeners/callers.  I will continue holding callers to a shorter time on the phone for future programs based on this experience.  I also put forth some ground rules to avoid partisan politics and to focus only on the space policy of the candidates.  I also made it clear that there would be no character bashing but ideas were fair game.  Most of the discussion regarding Newt’s statement dealt with his having talked about the lunar colony and making it part of the U.S.  Callers kept referencing the Outer Space Treaty (OST) which prohibits territorial claims on celestial bodies.  We talked about property rights and one caller referenced the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 Population Threshold which Newt referenced in his policy comments.  This caller also took us to a discussion of weapons in space, specifically nukes, as part of his comments on the OST.  This led to a discussion and a factual call on why weapons in space are not practical though nobody was advocating weapons in space nor did anyone advocate withdrawing from the OST or modifying it.  As for the Romney comments, some callers had issues with the panel of advisors for Romney and I questioned why DOD was being included in civil and commercial space planning, mission design, etc.  Another caller was physically present at both the Romney and Gingrich meetings so  he gave us a first hand report on what he saw and heard.  Later in the program, a caller referenced some of the gender and microgravity issues raised in the recent show with Dr. Bill Rowe and we talked about the need for a variable gravity research station to answer micro and artificial gravity questions in support of long duration human spaceflight.  While not specifically mentioned by anyone during the discussion, it is important to note that up until the new administration took office, it was national policy for the U.S. to return to the Moon and establish a lunar outpost which would eventually be turned over to commercial interests.  I don’t recall the giggle factor back then but we did talk about the giggle factor which seems to have returned as a result of the Newt comments.  Also, as soon as the program ended, I received a note about an interview by Dr. Jeff Foust on his spacepolitics.com blog with Eric Anderson, one of the key members of the advisory panel on space for Gov. Romney.  You can read this interview at /www.spacepolitics.com/2012/01/29/anderson-romney-would-be-advocate-of-commercial-space.  Again, it came in too late to be mentioned during our program but in my opinion, it is relevant to the OL discussion for today’s Space Show program.  Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per above.  If you want to send a note to any of the callers, do so through me and I will forward it for you if have the email address of the person you want to contact.